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Old July 17th, 2012, 04:33 PM

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Default How do you fight Death Underwater?

OK, so say I happen to be R'lyeh (SP, CBM, EA), and say I'm getting my underwater provinces repeatedly raided by a few Death guys (say, bane lords, dispossessed spirits, those doggie-looking-ones). What do I do to actually beat these guys up & off? I have Astral (vs undead don't work underwater) and Water (that "Cleansing" thing don't work underwater), and no Death, my guys run away after a couple of turns of doing little damage. Oh, and R'lyeh doesn't have any priests to either banish or courage sermon. So now what?
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Old July 17th, 2012, 06:04 PM
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Mindblast? Should work as they're not mindless...
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Old July 17th, 2012, 06:18 PM

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Mindblast is single-target. I think I need more AoE, they are quite a few undead, and I can't afford legions of mages to defend provinces against raiders.
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Default Re: How do you fight Death Underwater?

astral fires? it defineatel works UW, not sure how good the AOE is
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Old July 17th, 2012, 06:45 PM

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Default Re: How do you fight Death Underwater?

Just what do you mean by "astral fires"?? Ohhh, the book says that's S3F1, as R'yleh I don't have a single F-anything mage! Empowering an S3 would cost 50 fire per mage....
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R'lyeh does have death magic....
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sorry bubs. i'm not too knowledgable. just remmembered astral fires worked under water.
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Use D random mages to cast wither bones. Cast summon water elemental. (and hopefully you took Cold dominion and get Ice elementals).

Use mind burn to kill the commanders, mind hunt (ritual) to kill the commanders.

Cleansing water spam works vs undead. (oops but not underwater).

A well, commune some mages together to have a few of the D random ones cast wither bones, or just use the astral booster to raise their D3+ level.
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Mindblast is single-target. I think I need more AoE, they are quite a few undead, and I can't afford legions of mages to defend provinces against raiders.
Slobbies advice isn't that bad here. As there are two ways of stopping invaders, killing them all, or killing the commanders to make the troops run away. Mind blast ignores the mindless troops and thus has a higher chance of killing the non mindless commanders.

The spells also tend to target the high hp big units first. And guess who is a big unit? The bane lord!

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It seems that his troops are basing their protection on being ethereal, iirc (not sure test this yourself) life drain bypasses this ethereal protection. (Units do not get life back from hitting undead, but they can still hit them iirc). So, gibodai could work.
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I can't afford legions of mages to defend provinces against raiders.
In general: you don't need a legion of mages, but the right mage casting the right spells. You should know which provinces the enemy is likely to raid and be able to defend those.

Apparently you were playing a single-player game? It might just be worth it to put a couple of aboleths or giboleths at the front line, as many as you need to turn away a couple of undead units.
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