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Old July 29th, 2010, 09:42 AM

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Confused obat65 Finland, Igla SAMs

Units 205, Igla Team and 206, Igla-1 Team have as weapons ItOhj 86 Igla and ItOhj 86M Igla1 (weapons 126, 130)

However the stats for Igla seems to be actually the improved Iglas and the Igla-1 is worse, yet appears later. Seems like the names and respective units are wrong for these two weapons in the Finnish roster.

Also - unreliable information from wikipedia - http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/9K38_Igla claims that Finland started to get rid of old Iglas 2003 and just keeping the M-version.
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Default Re: obat65 Finland, Igla SAMs

Igla-1 (SA-16) is the simpler predecessor of the Igla (SA-18).
The ratings of the weapons match that, and that's just as well since they were copied from the recently updated Russian OOB.

Now according to SIPRI Arms Trade database, Finland received a batch of SA-16 in 1987-89 and a batch of SA-18 in 1990.
This is where my sources deviate from the OOB, on the point of service dates.

As an aside, SIPRI gives the local designation ItOhj 86M to the SA-16 and ItOhj 86 to the SA-14 (Strela-3), 105 delivered in 1986-97, which is not in the OOB yet.
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Old July 30th, 2010, 04:35 AM

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Default Re: obat65 Finland, Igla SAMs

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Igla-1 (SA-16) is the simpler predecessor of the Igla (SA-18).
The ratings of the weapons match that, and that's just as well since they were copied from the recently updated Russian OOB.

Now according to SIPRI Arms Trade database, Finland received a batch of SA-16 in 1987-89 and a batch of SA-18 in 1990.
This is where my sources deviate from the OOB, on the point of service dates.

As an aside, SIPRI gives the local designation ItOhj 86M to the SA-16 and ItOhj 86 to the SA-14 (Strela-3), 105 delivered in 1986-97, which is not in the OOB yet.
I stand corrected on Igla / Igla-1 issue. Should have been more thorough before posting.

ItO 78 should be SA-7 Strela-2
ItO 86 should be SA-16 Igla-1
ItO 86M should be SA-18 Igla
ItO 91 Mistral - used by navy
(the missiles that are ok IMO were omitted)

I have no idea what is the Finnish designation (if any) for SA-14 Strela-3, as the FDF official website didn't list that. On the new web site I was unable to find the information, so the link is to archive.org.

(In Finnish, use google translator if needed) http://web.archive.org/web/200709301...tely/00130.dsp
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