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Old October 25th, 2015, 04:14 PM
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If referring to Post #26, Don I believe on his next post took care of that. If your talking about AMX's Post #28, I had the following myself to include the HUSAR will post here everything I'm tracking for Austria...

PANDUR 1
http://www.janes.com/article/50032/a...-pandur-i-apcs
http://www.armyrecognition.com/march...n_station.html
/http://www.forecastinternational.com/news/index.cfm?l3=30109&recno=231096
http://www.defense-aerospace.com/art...eled-apcs.html


HUSAR:
http://www.upi.com/Business_News/Sec.../4001443724482

This was all I had and I haven't seen anything else that would fall into this category or any of the other ones I use. Was thinking JUNE 2015 start for at least the PANDUR 1 to allow for enough units to be fielded with the new RWS.

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Proposed changes and additions to Austrian OOB, including updated Iveco LMV "Husar", new Pandur version and mountain infantry.

Adapted OOB attached and detailed changelog in quotes:

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obat46 - Austria: (Adapted from default obat of WinSPMBT 10.0b)
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*************** v1.00 *************

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Unit 225 "Iveco LMV"
Name: CHANGED "Iveco LMV" to "Husar Iveco LMV"
SmokeDischargers: CHANGED "0" to "2"
Fire control: CHANGED "0" to "30"
Laser R/F: CHANGED "20" to "22"
Stabiliser: CHANGED "0" to "4"
Survivability: CHANGED "0" to "1"

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Unit 265 "Iveco LMV"
Name: CHANGED "Iveco LMV" to "Husar Iveco LMV"
Cost: CHANGED "23" to "35"
Vision: CHANGED "0" to "40"
SmokeDischargers: CHANGED "0" to "2"
Fire control: CHANGED "0" to "30"
Laser R/F: CHANGED "0" to "22"
Stabiliser: CHANGED "0" to "4"
Survivability: CHANGED "0" to "1"

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Unit 266 "Iveco LMV"
Name: CHANGED "Iveco LMV" to "Husar Iveco LMV"
Cost: CHANGED "23" to "35"
Vision: CHANGED "0" to "40"
SmokeDischargers: CHANGED "0" to "2"
Fire control: CHANGED "0" to "30"
Laser R/F: CHANGED "0" to "22"
Stabiliser: CHANGED "0" to "4"
Survivability: CHANGED "0" to "1"

(Official name in Austrian Army is now "Husar" and it has extra protection, SmokeDischargers, also WeaponStation has stabiliser, laser range finder, thermal imaging...)
(http://www.doppeladler.com/da/oebh/iveco-lmv/)
(http://www.bundesheer.at/cms/artikel.php?ID=8409)

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NEW: unit 390 "Pandur 6x6" copied from unit 037 "Pandur 6x6"
Available from "05 115" to "12 125"
Cost: CHANGED "34" to "50"
Vision: CHANGED "15" to "40"
Weapon 1: EXCHANGED 55 "12.7mm M2 AAMG" with 125 "12.7mm Rem MG"
Fire control: CHANGED "0" to "30"
Laser R/F: CHANGED "0" to "22"
Stabiliser: CHANGED "0" to "4"

(Some Pandur now have a Remote Weapons Station)
(http://www.bundesheer.at/cms/artikel.php?ID=7632)

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NEW: unit 302 "Tracker UAV" copied from unit 301 "Schiebel UAV"
Available from "01 115" to "12 125"
LBM: CHANGED from "32252" to "32251"
Icon: CHANGED from "3015" to "529"
Winter Icon: CHANGED from "3015" to "529"
Desert Icon: CHANGED from "3015" to "529"

(http://www.bundesheer.at/cms/artikel.php?ID=8454)

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NEW unit 400 "GbJg Scouts" copied from unit 348 "FJg Scouts"
Available from "01 87" to "12 125"
Unit Class: CHANGED "101" to "248"

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NEW unit 410 "GbJg Section" copied from unit 350 "FJg Section"
Available from "01 87" to "12 125"
Unit Class: CHANGED "96" to "111"

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NEW unit 411 "GbJg Section" copied from unit 351 "FJg Section"
Available from "01 87" to "12 125"
Unit Class: CHANGED "96" to "111"

--

NEW unit 412 "GbJg Section" copied from unit 352 "FJg Section"
Available from "01 87" to "12 125"
Unit Class: CHANGED "96" to "111"

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NEW unit 420 "GbJg Section" copied from unit 350 "FJg Section"
Available from "01 87" to "12 125"
Unit Class: CHANGED "96" to "247"

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NEW unit 421 "GbJg Section" copied from unit 351 "FJg Section"
Available from "01 87" to "12 125"
Unit Class: CHANGED "96" to "247"

--

NEW unit 422 "GbJg Section" copied from unit 352 "FJg Section"
Available from "01 87" to "12 125"
Unit Class: CHANGED "96" to "247"

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NEW formation 260 "GbJg Platoon" copied from formation 229 "FJg Platoon"
Available from "01 87" to "12 125"
Unit 1: EXCHANGED 344 "FJg Section" with 420 "GbJg Section"
Unit 2: EXCHANGED 350 "FJg Section" with 410 "GbJg Section"
Unit 3: EXCHANGED 350 "FJg Section" with 410 "GbJg Section"
Unit 4: EXCHANGED 350 "FJg Section" with 410 "GbJg Section"

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NEW unit 430 "GbJg Ski Scouts" copied from unit 348 "FJg Scouts"
Available from "01 87" to "12 125"
Unit Class: CHANGED "101" to "168"

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NEW unit 435 "GbJg Ski Sectn" copied from unit 350 "FJg Section"
Available from "01 87" to "12 125"
Unit Class: CHANGED "96" to "163"

--

NEW unit 436 "GbJg Ski Sectn" copied from unit 351 "FJg Section"
Available from "01 87" to "12 125"
Unit Class: CHANGED "96" to "163"

--

NEW unit 437 "GbJg Ski Sectn" copied from unit 352 "FJg Section"
Available from "01 87" to "12 125"
Unit Class: CHANGED "96" to "163"

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NEW unit 440 "GbJg Ski Sectn" copied from unit 350 "FJg Section"
Available from "01 87" to "12 125"
Unit Class: CHANGED "96" to "163"

--

NEW unit 441 "GbJg Ski Sectn" copied from unit 351 "FJg Section"
Available from "01 87" to "12 125"
Unit Class: CHANGED "96" to "163"

--

NEW unit 442 "GbJg Ski Sectn" copied from unit 352 "FJg Section"
Available from "01 87" to "12 125"
Unit Class: CHANGED "96" to "162"

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NEW formation 265 "GbJg Ski Plt" copied from formation 229 "FJg Platoon"
Available from "01 87" to "12 125"
Unit 1: EXCHANGED 344 "FJg Section" with 435 "GbJg Section"
Unit 2: EXCHANGED 350 "FJg Section" with 440 "GbJg Section"
Unit 3: EXCHANGED 350 "FJg Section" with 440 "GbJg Section"
Unit 4: EXCHANGED 350 "FJg Section" with 440 "GbJg Section"

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NEW unit 445 "Ski Sniper" copied from 112 "Sniper"
Unit Class: CHANGED "45" to "164"

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NEW unit 446 "Ski Sniper" copied from 113 "Sniper"
Unit Class: CHANGED "45" to "164"

--

NEW unit 447 "Ski Sniper" copied from 114 "Sniper"
Unit Class: CHANGED "45" to "164"

--

NEW unit 448 "Ski Sniper" copied from 115 "Sniper"
Unit Class: CHANGED "45" to "164"

--

NEW unit 449 "Ski Sniper" copied from 116 "Sniper"
Unit Class: CHANGED "45" to "164"

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NEW formation 253 "Ski Sniper" copied from formation 041 "Sniper"
Available from "01 87" to "12 125"
Unit 1: EXCHANGED 112 "Sniper" with 445 "Ski Sniper"

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(Several Austrian infantry bataillons are trained in mountain warfare, e.g. JgB 26)
(http://www.bundesheer.at/sk/lask/bri...on/jgb26.shtml)
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I will look into this in October we we start game work again

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New Unit(s)

1.) Another "Turret Casemate" for you to add to the Austrian OBAT; a Charioteer turret inside a casemated bunker at Bunkermuseum Wurzenpass Austria.

2+3.) Two more "Tank Forts" to go with UNIT 181 Centurion Fort:

M47 and T-34/85 turrets installed on concrete pads at the Bunkermuseum Wurzenpass Austria.

Tank Turret Fortifications By Neil Short says:

56~ Charioteer Turrets were installed on concrete shelters or in casemates. Initially they were armed with the original 83.4mm gun, but some were later rearmed with the 105mm Panzerkanone M68.

T-34/85: 26~ tanks were acquired by the Army and served until the early 1960s, when they were withdrawn and given to the Sperrtruppe (Barricade Force) of the Austrian Army; and several were put in as fixed forts along the border with Austria. Apparently the preferred method of bunkerizing the T-34/85 was to simply bury the entire hull in the ground instead of simply mounting the turret on a concrete pedestal.

M-47: 147 x M47 turrets were installed as fixed fortifications. At least one (near Fort Nauders) had applique armor installed for more protection. All deactivated by 1998.

Centurion (Existing UNIT 181): The bulk of Austria's remaining centurion fleet was turret forted for about a decade -- 1990-2000~ before being removed from service.
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Here's an operational M47 Turret picture for LBM use -- if you google "Feste Anlage", you get some good stuff.

And a "cleverly" disguised centurion (I think) turret inside a fake house. I Have no idea how you'd represent this; but... still cool.
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According to the Austrian Army's page:

http://www.bundesheer.at/cms/artikel.php?ID=3655

This is a T-34/85 being pulled out of it's casemated bunker shelter for restoration. Thickness of the bunker wall(s) was 60 cm of concrete.
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Some more research has uncovered some more Austrian Bunkerized stuff:

75mm FAn M-24 with PzK L40 (from M-24 Chaffees)

24 x 15.5 cm FAn SFK M2 Long Tom (Pic Attached).

60 x 4 cm FAn FLAK 55-57 Bofors specifically along the Danube river in fixed positions to kill anything on the river. All removed 1998. (Pic of a 4 cm bunker from the inside).

24 x 10.5 cm FAn LFH 18/40 (see attached pic)

7.5cm rückstoßfreie Panzerabwehrkanone M20 -- apparently installed in special 100mm thick cupolas with an opening at the rear for use of the recoilless system.

7.62cm FAn PAK M42

Charioteer Panzerturme 105mm Upgrade: In addition to receiving the 105mm M68 gun, they also received 300 to 400mm of add-on armor.

7.62mm FAn MG-42: In enclosed armored dome.

12.7mm FAn Browning: In enclosed armored dome.
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Proposed changes to Austrian OOB, Austria is changing it's artillery organization.

Adapted OOB attached and detailed changelog in quotes:


Quote:
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obat46 - Austria: (Adapted from default obat of WinSPMBT 11.01)
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*************** v1.00 *************

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NEW: formation 057 "SPA Plt" copied from formation 020 "SPA Battery"
Available from "01 121" to "12 125"
Deleted Unit/Formation 6 (from 40 "M109" to 0)
Deleted Unit/Formation 5 (from 40 "M109" to 0)

NEW: formation 026 "SPA Battery" copied from formation 020 "SPA Battery"
Available from "01 121" to "12 125"
Added 40 "M109" as Unit/Formation 7
Added 40 "M109" as Unit/Formation 8

CHANGED: formation 020 "SPA Battery"
Available until "12 120"

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NEW: formation 055 "SPA Section" copied from formation 053 "SPA Section"
Available from "01 121" to "12 125"
Deleted Unit/Formation 3 (from 40 "M109" to 0)

CHANGED: formation 053 "SPA Section"
Available until "12 120"

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NEW: unit 157 "M109A5Oe Sec" copied from unit 155 "M109A5Oe Sec"
Available from 01 121" to "12 125"
Deleted Weapon 3 (from 122 "155mm M198 FH" to 0)

CHANGED: unit 155 "M109A5Oe Sec"
Available until "12 120"

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NEW: formation 059 "Howitzer Bty" copied from formation 047 "Howitzer Bty"
Available from 01 121" to "12 125"
Added 154 "M109A2 Sec" as Unit/Formation 3
Added 154 "M109A2 Sec" as Unit/Formation 4

CHANGED: formation 047 "Howitzer Bty"
Available until "12 120"

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NEW: formation 060 "Howitzer Bn" copied from formation 052 "Howitzer Bn"
Available from 01 121" to "12 125"
Added 154 "M109A2 Sec" as Unit/Formation 7
Added 154 "M109A2 Sec" as Unit/Formation 8

CHANGED: formation 052 "Howitzer Bn"
Available until "12 120"


(Austria is selling part of its SPA to Latvia)
(By 2021 latest there will be 2 Bataillons with 2 Batteries with 2 Platoons with 4 M109)
(http://www.doppeladler.com/da/oebh/l...nzerhaubitzen/)

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OK thanks, I'll look into this when we start OOB work again

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