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Old October 21st, 2020, 02:32 PM
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Default Re: Jets & Planes but no UAV's here.

as with them all but in this case, I was surprised by the 8-year discrepancy
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Old October 22nd, 2020, 03:07 AM
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Fallout Re: Jets & Planes but no UAV's here.

I can't agree with your logic concerning Reserve Units once called up they are normally attached to Active Units to supplement "manpower" or "equipment" shortages or in the case of the AH-1W earlier this year...

"The last detachment of AH-1Ws to complete a deployment returned earlier this year with the 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit. The detachment, temporarily assigned to Marine Medium Tiltrotor Squadron (VMM) 365 (Reinforced), was part of Marine Light Attack Helicopter Squadron 167 (HMLA-167), based at Marine Corps Air Station New River, North Carolina."
https://seapowermagazine.org/marine-...a-helicopters/

By your reasoning then, since they don't count, I guess we can get rid all the National Guardsman Units in the USA OOB and free up all those slots.

I can speak of the Army at this point...
"The major differences between the Guard and Reserve have to do with the nature of dutyReserve members operate under the jurisdiction of the DoD and may be called up to serve in times of war, in expeditionary campaigns, for humanitarian relief, and any other mission-essential function.

National Guard troops can be activated by the Governor of your state, and they may also be called up by the President of the United States."

So those Reserve Units regardless of service branch, will get called up first to respond to a National Emergency.
https://militarybenefits.info/active...erve-or-guard/

Legacy Units are the "bridge" until whatever replaces them, replaces them. And that can take a decade or longer to happen. Therefore they get upgraded to sustain their combat readiness as has been clearly demonstrated.

FOC I don't see how this doesn't matter. I tried to find the response from one of our people out here who shortly after I posted the changes for INDIA's tanks (I remember it was the T-90MS.) for the last patch, he was grateful that those tanks and in particular, the T-90MS dates got changed to reflect RL.

I believe those got entered on receipt of the test beds for evaluation of them.

He frustration dealt with the fact that he plays Pakistan vs India and the AI kept picking those and other tanks NOT yet in service.

As I see it from all my years in Board gaming to early PC (Steel Panthers) games to now was to maintain the equipment as close to RL as possible and then leave to the players to fight them as they desire under historical, current news or any option their imagination can come up with.

And besides concerning FOC, this is...
1) What Don expects of me as the "gold standard" and has been his mantra out here in I don't know how many posts over the years.

2) It goes against my own personal integrity to do otherwise. I will not compromise on that for the sake of expediency or any other reason. You do the job right or you don't do it at all. that's from my up bringing, mentors and my work and military career. Otherwise I wasted my time during the 2019/2020 Campaign as FOC was a big part of that work along with many other factors.

3) In our game reviews we have been "touted" by most of those reviewers for our diligence in updating the game and maintaining the accuracy of our "equipment".

4) Most importantly, it's about the players, that response I got had the whole thing worth while. I've NEVER felt it was about us, but ONLY about the players. That's why I do this and hopefully will be able to continue to do so until JAN/FEB 2026 when I can be a player again.

At least later today is my "HUMP DAY" might be a "double" retirement in 2026, that's an awesome thought!?!

It's very late and I'm tired, so Good Night!

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Old October 22nd, 2020, 12:00 PM
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Default Re: Jets & Planes but no UAV's here.

More often then not when USMC Reserve units are called up it's JUST the warm bodies, their equipment stays at home, So the vehicles and such used are the same as those used by active duty forces not the odds-n-sods they normally use at home.

I have no clue about the National Guard/US Army. But strongly suspect they're handled very differently to a US Army Reserve unit. And I know in some cases Reserve/NG units exist to provide capabilities that active duty forces lack (example railroad support).
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Default Re: Jets & Planes but no UAV's here.

Many of our escort units in Afghanistan were US Army Reserve units activated for 6 months at a time. Some of these guys identified as Guard also, not sure if there is some sort of dual membership option for the ones that want to deploy. They did the training as a unit before leaving the US.
In this case they had their personal equipment but fell in on things like MRAPs or up-armored SUVs that never left theater.
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In this case they had their personal equipment but fell in on things like MRAPs or up-armored SUVs that never left theater.
The USMC Reserve operates the same way.
Your personal equipment you bring with you but ALL weapons and vehicles are issued once you arrive wherever you're going. No real point shipping stuff across country then half way around the world. Just pull it out of the depots, that's what they're there for after all.

I suspect (yes this is a guess) those that were National Guard were transferred to the Reserve for the duration of their deployment because it simplified administration (i.e. no need to send their pay back to their home state/unit in order for it to be in turn sent to the regular army unit handling financial matters in the theater of operation where they're deployed).
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Default Re: Jets & Planes but no UAV's here.

Its sort of drifted off topic but the fact the US probably has more equipment stored around the world than most countries could field takes a bit of processing.
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Default Re: Jets & Planes but no UAV's here.

Japan has retired the F-4 Phantom from active service as of a day or so ago. There are about maybe 3 or 4 more still in service with the JASDF, but in a test and evaluation role.
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Fallout Re: Jets & Planes but no UAV's here.

Marks on it. And as he reported 4 will be "test beds" for some aspects of their "future fighter" program and other things. Picked the the following ref. as it's accompanied by a video of the final flight of one of or the first one to be retired back in April 2018.
https://theaviationist.com/2018/04/2...fter-44-years/
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...tline-phantoms


What's to come?
They're making room for the F-35A, while still flying the F-16J and the F-15J which has just started or will very soon start, a major modernization program. This all is ahead of the FX-6th GEN fighter of which the first prototypes will be in the air around 2028. Production of the type barring w/o any delays, should start in the early 2030's to start the IOC process.
https://www.popularmechanics.com/mil...w-fighter-jet/

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Default Re: Jets & Planes but no UAV's here.

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I suspect (yes this is a guess) those that were National Guard were transferred to the Reserve for the duration of their deployment because it simplified administration (i.e. no need to send their pay back to their home state/unit in order for it to be in turn sent to the regular army unit handling financial matters in the theater of operation where they're deployed).
National Guard and Army Reserves don't mix together. They are not transferred to the other. This was tried back in 2003, they mixed units from different branches of the Army and that didn't work out as well as they hoped. Mainly because the BS of one branch is better than the other came into play far too often.

Guard also has a shorter rotation than reserves as far as deployment time goes.
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