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Old March 16th, 2012, 01:54 PM
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Default Re: Hinnom (EA, no mods): Ba'al's or Melqarts

iirc you can only get 200 fatigue from one spell. (Which is easy to test brb). Back, whoops I was wrong, 2 slaves got 200 fatigue and around 8 damage each. (But still, they lived, but where knocked out). The master did have s9.

So it works as a throw away tactic, if you don't care about your slaves.
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Default Re: Hinnom (EA, no mods): Ba'al's or Melqarts

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I think, Banner of the Northen Star i mentioned earlier helps too.
I assumed LotNS already, either cast or with the Banner. There's just no way to put together a small master enslave communion. Maybe a nation with recruit anywhere S4s but I don't think such a beast exists. Well, Marverni can get S4 druids anywhere, but it's a 1/16 chance, so too rare to blow on gimmicks like this.

@Soyweiser, that's the problem alright. Nobody can afford to just throw away S3s much less S4s, so no teleporting. At which point you might as well go whole hog and throw in 16+ S1s and go repeat casting.

How strong were your slaves btw? I was under the impression that fatigue damage over 200 translates to hp at 10:1, and that being 1 under the spell requirement doubles fatigue, which should mean 4 S3 slaves will each take 400 fatigue and die instantly.

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Default Re: Hinnom (EA, no mods): Ba'al's or Melqarts

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Nobody can afford to just throw away S3s much less S4s...
Except R'lyeh. Heck, they'll likely have some S5s you could use.
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Default Re: Hinnom (EA, no mods): Ba'al's or Melqarts

one idea is to have an S9 or S8 pretender as the master and then have a single S1 mage or something as the slave. The slave pops and the master is free to cast a second time. Otherwise you can use an earth king or something. Earth kings are super good slaves due to lots of HP and Regen. 800/(1/8)= 6400 points of fatigue. Or 640 points of damage. Ehh maybe not.

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Well, Marverni can get S4 druids anywhere, but it's a 1/16 chance, so too rare to blow on gimmicks like this.
Well, s4 astral mage with full slots doesn`t need a communion.
Also, slave matrix on slaves and crystal shield + matrix on master gives you PotS on every slave, right? That might save you a turn. Or you can use a communion with two masters (both matrixed) - one casts PotS, another casts ME - that`s definitely cheaper.
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