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Old May 1st, 2009, 12:40 AM

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Default Lewis gun higher accuracy than Bren?

Just started a Brit long campaign, and I bought some of the colonial infantry for flavour.When I was looking at their stats, I noticed that their Lewis guns have 1 higher Accuracy than the Bren gun. Isn't this out of whack, given that the Bren was almost too accurate for its role, or does accuracy cover something other than what I think, mechanically?
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Just started a Brit long campaign, and I bought some of the colonial infantry for flavour.When I was looking at their stats, I noticed that their Lewis guns have 1 higher Accuracy than the Bren gun. Isn't this out of whack, given that the Bren was almost too accurate for its role, or does accuracy cover something other than what I think, mechanically?
Something for the to be investigated pile for next year's data update exercise.

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Default Re: Lewis gun higher accuracy than Bren?

There's nothing to investigate. Both weapons use the same .303 ammo and the Lewis gun's barrel is 1.5 inches longer than a Bren and under the accuracy calcs we use that gives the Lewis 1 higher accuracy.

Lewis Gun — Barrel Length: 26.5 in = 26.5 / .303 /4 = 21.86 = 22 ACC

Bren Gun — Barrel Length: 25 in = 25 / .303 / 4 = 20.62 = 21 ACC

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Default Re: Lewis gun higher accuracy than Bren?

Ah. So its all based off a formula then? Interesting.

It does make it sort of an odd situation, since it makes the bren an inferior weapon to the lewis gun. The other factors (reliability) arent applicable here.
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Ah. So its all based off a formula then? Interesting.

It does make it sort of an odd situation, since it makes the bren an inferior weapon to the lewis gun. The other factors (reliability) arent applicable here.
BREN has a 30 round box magazine, Lewis a 57(?) round drum. You pays your money and takes your choices.

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Default Re: Lewis gun higher accuracy than Bren?

Thats true. But I guess thats factors that arent really applicable to SP.
Anyways, now I understand how the numbers are figured out. Thanks!
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Default Re: Lewis gun higher accuracy than Bren?

The Bren is lighter and doesn't jam as much. At least that's what I heard

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Default Re: Lewis gun higher accuracy than Bren?

Into the arcane world of the Lewis Gun, the normal infantry version had a 47-rd drum: for airborne use by the RFC/RNAS a 97-rd drum was developed.
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Default Re: Lewis gun higher accuracy than Bren?

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Ah. So its all based off a formula then? Interesting.

It does make it sort of an odd situation, since it makes the bren an inferior weapon to the lewis gun. The other factors (reliability) arent applicable here.
It's an ACCURACY rating that's why it deals with ACCURACY and not "other factors" as you specifically asked why it had a ....."1 higher Accuracy than the Bren gun".


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Default Re: Lewis gun higher accuracy than Bren?

Well, I always thought the Lewis gun was about the coolest looking LMG ever made, so I'm content
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