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Old November 19th, 2017, 04:51 PM
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Confused Ramschaufelpanzer StuG IV

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the other two show it clearing rubble and a civilian is shown driving so I suspect this was designed to clear rubble from city streets and is not a combat vehicle ( the big hole where the gun used to be is a bit of a giveaway..... I have also seen a photo of a panther version as well......anyone know if my suspicions are correct?

It was nice to see the photo dated March 20 1944
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Default Re: Ramschaufelpanzer StuG IV

I don't have it currently to hand, but I am sure, I have an article with an annotated photo of a Panther Ram and Sturmpanzer IV Ram - which says they were conversions post-war for rubble clearing
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Default Re: Ramschaufelpanzer StuG IV

Ah ! That explains the civilian driver but not the date 3,30,44
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Default Re: Ramschaufelpanzer StuG IV

Found some stuff -

Seems Ram(m)schaufelpanzer or Panzer-Strassenraeumgeraet (tank street dozers) were used to clear rubble from bombed cities in early 1944 and continued after the war. There are pictures of (a unique?) panther and notes that say PzIII and IV were used.

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Default Re: Ramschaufelpanzer StuG IV

I had seen the first and third photo before but not the main one.....anyway the question is answered.... not a "game worthy" vehicle ( just as well they'd have to go into Blue )
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