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March 1st, 2009, 02:26 PM
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Ethereal + 100% FR vs. Flaming weapon bless
Ok if a Flaming weapons bless counts as a Magic weapon but only the Fire damage portion of the attack counts as magic then if a unit was Ethereal And also had 100% Fire resist would the Flaming weapons actually hit the unit all the time or would the Ethereal portion work so that he was only hit 25% of the time since the FR would presumably counter the Flaming weapons???
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March 1st, 2009, 06:05 PM
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Re: Ethereal + 100% FR vs. Flaming weapon bless
I'm pretty sure second part is correct. Only fire damage is magic, bless doesn't actually make initial weapon damage type magic.
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March 1st, 2009, 06:36 PM
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Re: Ethereal + 100% FR vs. Flaming weapon bless
Oh, I would have said the opposite. Needs a test I guess!
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March 1st, 2009, 09:20 PM
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Re: Ethereal + 100% FR vs. Flaming weapon bless
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Originally Posted by llamabeast
Oh, I would have said the opposite. Needs a test I guess!
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I would guess with you llama - when the unit is blessed, it says magic weapons.
Additionally, jag warriors tear through ethereal faster than I think can be explained merely by only the fire portion being magical. |
March 1st, 2009, 10:26 PM
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Re: Ethereal + 100% FR vs. Flaming weapon bless
Easy to test conclusively, does it pop mistform under the same conditions?
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March 2nd, 2009, 08:39 PM
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Re: Ethereal + 100% FR vs. Flaming weapon bless
When I once played (and in the end won) as Mictlan with W9D9 and was facing a high-defense\MR Vampire Queen under mistform, my jags never managed to dispel it while they could hit that 1HP from time to time. I understood it so that as she resisted that 2 AN+MR damage, their weapon stopped being magic.
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March 2nd, 2009, 08:58 PM
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Re: Ethereal + 100% FR vs. Flaming weapon bless
yes, ano is correct, I believe.
so 100% FR will negate the magicality of the weapon, and ethereality will operate. However, chrisp's observation is also the case, IME, ie. that w/ operative flaming weapons the regular attack also is fully effective against ethereal targets.
I wouldn't think that 75% FR would stop the regular attack being efficacious against ethereality, but I am not sure.
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March 2nd, 2009, 11:18 PM
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Re: Ethereal + 100% FR vs. Flaming weapon bless
Flaming Weapons only add the Fire secondary effect. It does NOT make the base weapon magic.
Test results of F10 blessed jaguar warriors against fog-warriored Abyssian infantry.
Note that this is fundamentally different than Flaming Arrows. Flaming missiles are magic AND have the Fire secondary effect.
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March 3rd, 2009, 04:30 PM
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Re: Ethereal + 100% FR vs. Flaming weapon bless
Cleveland, you are too pro.
Can I be like you?
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March 3rd, 2009, 09:23 PM
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Re: Ethereal + 100% FR vs. Flaming weapon bless
Evidence based medicine. Thanks Cleve!
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