.com.unity Forums
  The Official e-Store of Shrapnel Games

This Month's Specials

BCT Commander- Save $8.00
winSPWW2- Save $5.00

   







Go Back   .com.unity Forums > Illwinter Game Design > Dominions 3: The Awakening

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old June 26th, 2008, 05:56 PM

Technowolf Technowolf is offline
Private
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 15
Thanks: 6
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Technowolf is on a distinguished road
Default Levels of Poptype randomness?

Hi all,

I was just wondering how truly random poptype selection is when generating a map. I could not find any information on how poptypes are chosen in the DB, but while perusing it one day I did come across some poptypes I had never seen before (i.e. Asmegs, vaetti w/ dwarves, toad tribals) or had never seen randomly placed (trolls, regular vaetti)

And before any asks, yes, I did use the search function, but could not find anything relating to this topic.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old June 26th, 2008, 06:36 PM
Edi's Avatar

Edi Edi is offline
National Security Advisor
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Helsinki, Finland
Posts: 5,425
Thanks: 174
Thanked 695 Times in 267 Posts
Edi is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Levels of Poptype randomness?

I'll give you a detailed breakdown tomorrow morning.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old June 26th, 2008, 07:05 PM
Gandalf Parker's Avatar

Gandalf Parker Gandalf Parker is offline
Shrapnel Fanatic
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Vacaville, CA, USA
Posts: 13,736
Thanks: 341
Thanked 479 Times in 326 Posts
Gandalf Parker is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Levels of Poptype randomness?

The poptypes are definetly tied in to both Era, and Terrain.

But they are also modifiable with map commands. Leif created a number of scripts back in Dom2 that people could run to create very different worlds. If you have a preference its not hard to write something to give you a personalized map with more of some and less of others you tell us.
__________________
-- DISCLAIMER:
This game is NOT suitable for students, interns, apprentices, or anyone else who is expected to pass tests on a regular basis. Do not think about strategies while operating heavy machinery. Before beginning this game make arrangements for someone to check on you daily. If you find that your game has continued for more than 36 hours straight then you should consult a physician immediately (Do NOT show him the game!)
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old June 27th, 2008, 01:54 AM
Endoperez's Avatar

Endoperez Endoperez is offline
National Security Advisor
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Eastern Finland
Posts: 7,110
Thanks: 145
Thanked 153 Times in 101 Posts
Endoperez is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Levels of Poptype randomness?

Some poptypes have been used in special provinces in spesific Dom:PPP or DomII maps, and aren't usually available. Others are just extremely rare.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old June 27th, 2008, 04:21 AM
Edi's Avatar

Edi Edi is offline
National Security Advisor
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Helsinki, Finland
Posts: 5,425
Thanks: 174
Thanked 695 Times in 267 Posts
Edi is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Levels of Poptype randomness?

The common Trolls & Vaettir poptype (61) that allows recruitment of normal trolls and vaettir is randomly available but it is just very rare. I actually had a province with that poptype right next to my capital in LeafNosedBat. And to add insult to injury, the Troll Pit site I found was in the same province!

I have never seen poptype 66 which only has vaettir in it, but it could be very rare like 61. I've seen 61 three times total, once win Dom-PPP, once in Dom2 and once in Dom3. Poptypes 67, 70 and 71 which have Vaettir with the Dwarven Smith or Svartalf or which have pure trolls are not randomly available but can be added to a map file with the #poptype <nbr> command. The same is true of the Asmeg poptype (69).

All other poptypes can appear randomly, though the Toad tribals are about as rare as the trolls and vaettir in my eperience.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old June 27th, 2008, 12:32 PM

Technowolf Technowolf is offline
Private
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 15
Thanks: 6
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Technowolf is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Levels of Poptype randomness?

Thanks, Edi.


I think I have gotten the pure vaettir (66) once, maybe twice. It could have been 61, but I don't think I actually conquered the province.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:01 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©1999 - 2024, Shrapnel Games, Inc. - All Rights Reserved.