.com.unity Forums
  The Official e-Store of Shrapnel Games

This Month's Specials

Raging Tiger- Save $9.00
World Supremacy- Save $9.00

   







Go Back   .com.unity Forums > Illwinter Game Design > Dominions 3: The Awakening

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #21  
Old May 16th, 2008, 04:57 PM
Natpy's Avatar

Natpy Natpy is offline
Corporal
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 106
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Natpy is on a distinguished road
Default Re: A Poisoner\'s Guide to LA Pythium

I tried to develop LA Pyth strategy in some other way. I think they needed pretender with fire. But did not play with it in MP, therefore can say nothing about its efficiency.

sorry, my english is terrible...
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old May 16th, 2008, 05:00 PM

MaxWilson MaxWilson is offline
Major General
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Seattle
Posts: 2,497
Thanks: 165
Thanked 105 Times in 73 Posts
MaxWilson is on a distinguished road
Default Re: A Poisoner\'s Guide to LA Pythium

Disease? Is this new in a patch, QM? Or from CBM? Or has it been there all along but been undocumented?

-Max

Edit: BTW, someone asked for a manual cite. Manual p. 49 says,

Skill Level 9 (Death) Effect: Affliction chance 350%, Death Weapons
Skill Level 10 (Death) Effect: Affliction chance 400%, Death Weapons
__________________
Bauchelain - "Qwik Ben iz uzin wallhax! HAX!"
Quick Ben - "lol pwned"

["Memories of Ice", by Steven Erikson. Retranslated into l33t.]
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old May 16th, 2008, 05:17 PM

llamabeast llamabeast is offline
National Security Advisor
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Oxford, UK
Posts: 5,921
Thanks: 194
Thanked 855 Times in 291 Posts
llamabeast will become famous soon enoughllamabeast will become famous soon enough
Default Re: A Poisoner\'s Guide to LA Pythium

Not had a chance to read the whole guide yet, but just a quick correction - hydras have 9 heads, not 5.
__________________
www.llamaserver.net
LlamaServer FAQ
My mod nations: Tomb Kings and Vampire Counts
A compilation of high quality mod nations: Expanded Nations Packs
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old May 16th, 2008, 05:26 PM
Natpy's Avatar

Natpy Natpy is offline
Corporal
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 106
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Natpy is on a distinguished road
Default Re: A Poisoner\'s Guide to LA Pythium

Hydras have 5 heads, but 9 attacks.
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old May 16th, 2008, 05:46 PM
Endoperez's Avatar

Endoperez Endoperez is offline
National Security Advisor
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Eastern Finland
Posts: 7,110
Thanks: 145
Thanked 153 Times in 101 Posts
Endoperez is on a distinguished road
Default Re: A Poisoner\'s Guide to LA Pythium

I think the weapons with two attacks are labeled as "lesser heads", and once the hydra goes down one size that becomes "lesser head". Note the loss of plural. So they have 5 weapons, 4 of which consist of two heads. Confused yet?
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old May 16th, 2008, 05:53 PM

Aezeal Aezeal is offline
Lieutenant General
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 2,691
Thanks: 5
Thanked 39 Times in 31 Posts
Aezeal is on a distinguished road
Default Re: A Poisoner\'s Guide to LA Pythium

if you give the hydra's a fire 9 bless, will all 9 attacks be stronger and better vs armour, and be magical?

If that is so I'm really gonn see what a triple blessed hydra army can do (I'm thinking air/fire/water, with fire and water certainly at 9, air could be lower)

I'm reasonably certain it's been tried so I'd like to hear what happens... later you could buff them a bit too "(it seems to me every buff would work well with them).. since they already have regen it seems they would be very strong.

tell me plz
__________________
Want a blend of fantasy and sci-fi? Try the total conversion Dominions 3000 mod with a new and fully modded solar system map.
Dragons wanted? Try the Dragons, Magic Incarnate nation.
New and different undead nation? Try Souls of Shiar. Including new powerfull holy magic.
In for a whole new sort of game? Then try my scenario map Gang Wars.
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old May 16th, 2008, 06:07 PM

quantum_mechani quantum_mechani is offline
Lieutenant General
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Alaska
Posts: 2,968
Thanks: 24
Thanked 221 Times in 46 Posts
quantum_mechani is on a distinguished road
Default Re: A Poisoner\'s Guide to LA Pythium

Quote:
MaxWilson said:
Disease? Is this new in a patch, QM? Or from CBM? Or has it been there all along but been undocumented?


Perhaps it was changed some time during beta, but I distinctly remember d9 having an extra disease check at some point.
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old May 16th, 2008, 06:10 PM
moderation's Avatar

moderation moderation is offline
Second Lieutenant
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 448
Thanks: 0
Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts
moderation is on a distinguished road
Default Re: A Poisoner\'s Guide to LA Pythium

Quote:
Ironhawk said:
Isn't it +fear for low levels and then like extra afflications or something at level 9? Who has a manual handy?
Taking Death 5 or more gives your pretender the fear effect, which is probably what caused the confusion.

Maybe the death weapons from D9 and D10 cause disease like a Bane Blade. Since it is AN MR damage, maybe it requires a MR check to cause disease.
__________________
How to observe blitzes
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old May 16th, 2008, 06:15 PM
Endoperez's Avatar

Endoperez Endoperez is offline
National Security Advisor
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Eastern Finland
Posts: 7,110
Thanks: 145
Thanked 153 Times in 101 Posts
Endoperez is on a distinguished road
Default Re: A Poisoner\'s Guide to LA Pythium

Quote:
Aezeal said:
if you give the hydra's a fire 9 bless, will all 9 attacks be stronger and better vs armour, and be magical?
Fire 9 certainly works better with Flagellants and such, whose weapons have multiple attacks, and units who have multiple weapons, so combining the two should be pretty devastating.
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old May 16th, 2008, 06:29 PM

Ironhawk Ironhawk is offline
General
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 3,011
Thanks: 0
Thanked 45 Times in 35 Posts
Ironhawk is on a distinguished road
Default Re: A Poisoner\'s Guide to LA Pythium

Quote:
Aezeal said:
if you give the hydra's a fire 9 bless, will all 9 attacks be stronger and better vs armour, and be magical?

If that is so I'm really gonn see what a triple blessed hydra army can do (I'm thinking air/fire/water, with fire and water certainly at 9, air could be lower)
No thats not how the Fire bless attack works. Its an extra attack that is, I believe, 9AP fire damage rather than a bonus applied to each attack the unit currently has. So since the Hydra already has 9 attacks, adding another one isnt really that much of a boost.

About triple blessing the Hydras: as I point out in the guide, its not particularly efficient to do so. The Hydras are already so strong that you can get almost the same amount of mileage out of them with a light bless as you can with a strong one. I know its not intuitive but think about it for a sec...

edit..
I bungled like every bless effect here so ignore this post. Read on for a discussion thereof...
edit
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:59 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©1999 - 2024, Shrapnel Games, Inc. - All Rights Reserved.