.com.unity Forums
  The Official e-Store of Shrapnel Games

This Month's Specials

BCT Commander- Save $8.00
winSPWW2- Save $5.00

   







Go Back   .com.unity Forums > The Camo Workshop > WinSPMBT
Notices


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11  
Old April 28th, 2019, 02:27 PM

jp10 jp10 is offline
Corporal
 
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Nashville, TN, USA
Posts: 177
Thanks: 21
Thanked 69 Times in 48 Posts
jp10 is on a distinguished road
Default Re: AA Defense

A bit more real life than game world but AAA professionals consider upsetting the attack (missed target, aborted runs...etc) to be successful deployment of assets, not just actually bringing down an attacker. I don't think the game has attackers avoiding AAA and SAMs and spoiling their attack as much as in real life. In the US deployment in Vietnam the lead plane was often a decoy to draw AA assets and would abort and evade while the 2nd plane made the attack.
Does you AAA make many aborts or misses?
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old April 28th, 2019, 02:43 PM
Aeraaa's Avatar

Aeraaa Aeraaa is offline
Second Lieutenant
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 592
Thanks: 161
Thanked 345 Times in 208 Posts
Aeraaa is on a distinguished road
Default Re: AA Defense

Quote:
Originally Posted by jp10 View Post
A bit more real life than game world but AAA professionals consider upsetting the attack (missed target, aborted runs...etc) to be successful deployment of assets, not just actually bringing down an attacker. I don't think the game has attackers avoiding AAA and SAMs and spoiling their attack as much as in real life. In the US deployment in Vietnam the lead plane was often a decoy to draw AA assets and would abort and evade while the 2nd plane made the attack.
Does you AAA make many aborts or misses?
I consider the "abort" as an aircraft receiving damage but not shot down, since any aircraft that receives even 1hp of damage permanently leaves the battlefield.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old May 1st, 2019, 02:51 AM
Imp's Avatar

Imp Imp is offline
General
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Uk
Posts: 3,308
Thanks: 98
Thanked 602 Times in 476 Posts
Imp is on a distinguished road
Default Re: AA Defense

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wdll View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulinski View Post
Thanks for replies everyone.

I'm stubborn so I played another time last night. Draw as expected but I did down 3 Chinese planes. I'm beginning to question if the Chinese have too much air assets unless historically it was the case.

I don't think is feasible to hold back my armor because the Chinese armor arrive in turn 2 and just punishes my infantry.

I'm going to try again and see if I can hold the ZSU to fire on closer targets as it seems they target the planes far away.

The Strela is somewhat useful the 14.5mm is useless.
Don't let your AA guns shoot at max range. That's a waste of ammo.
Varies vs Helos for sure reduce the range to draw them in.
Planes however get lead time each consecutive shot is more accurate so hit chance goes up.
Therefore effective so long as flight path is not all at far range.
__________________
John
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old May 1st, 2019, 06:16 AM
Wdll's Avatar

Wdll Wdll is offline
Lieutenant Colonel
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Hellas->Macedonia->Thessaloniki->City Center->noisy neighbourhood
Posts: 1,359
Thanks: 307
Thanked 128 Times in 87 Posts
Wdll is on a distinguished road
Default Re: AA Defense

Quote:
Originally Posted by Imp View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wdll View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulinski View Post
Thanks for replies everyone.

I'm stubborn so I played another time last night. Draw as expected but I did down 3 Chinese planes. I'm beginning to question if the Chinese have too much air assets unless historically it was the case.

I don't think is feasible to hold back my armor because the Chinese armor arrive in turn 2 and just punishes my infantry.

I'm going to try again and see if I can hold the ZSU to fire on closer targets as it seems they target the planes far away.

The Strela is somewhat useful the 14.5mm is useless.
Don't let your AA guns shoot at max range. That's a waste of ammo.
Varies vs Helos for sure reduce the range to draw them in.
Planes however get lead time each consecutive shot is more accurate so hit chance goes up.
Therefore effective so long as flight path is not all at far range.
I rather have the planes approach and have higher chance of hitting them, than shoot at them from afar and have very limited chance of hitting them.
Plus shooting them several times without hitting them gives away the position of the AA guns.
I prefer to have them shoot at most at 75% of their range.
Depending on various parameters.
__________________
That's it, keep dancing on the minefield!
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old May 9th, 2019, 08:20 PM

Paulinski Paulinski is offline
Private
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Brantford, Ontario
Posts: 7
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Paulinski is on a distinguished road
Default Re: AA Defense

A fine ytube wargaming channel "The Mack" is currently playing this scenario.

Give him a sub and watch his videos also SPWWII material there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2C90Bn9cts&t=30s
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Paulinski For This Useful Post:
  #16  
Old May 11th, 2019, 12:08 AM

Paulinski Paulinski is offline
Private
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Brantford, Ontario
Posts: 7
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Paulinski is on a distinguished road
Default Re: AA Defense

Got Marginal Victory as Vietnamese this eve.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Paulinski For This Useful Post:
  #17  
Old May 11th, 2019, 09:17 AM

jivemi jivemi is offline
Second Lieutenant
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Philippines
Posts: 502
Thanks: 411
Thanked 142 Times in 102 Posts
jivemi is on a distinguished road
Default Re: AA Defense

Feels good doesn't it? Nothing like challenging scenarios to bring out the best in a player regardless of experience.

Had a gander at Mack's videos. Seems he benefited from your advice and got a marginal on his first try. Much obliged for the link. Cheers!

Last edited by jivemi; May 11th, 2019 at 08:58 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old May 11th, 2019, 10:13 AM
Suhiir's Avatar

Suhiir Suhiir is offline
Lieutenant General
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Salt Lake City, UT
Posts: 2,829
Thanks: 542
Thanked 792 Times in 600 Posts
Suhiir is on a distinguished road
Default Re: AA Defense

Always the best when you pull off a near thing ... in a game anyway

RL I prefer my victories extremely lopsided.
__________________
Suhiir - Wargame Junkie

People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people.

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe." - Albert Einstein
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Suhiir For This Useful Post:
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:29 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©1999 - 2024, Shrapnel Games, Inc. - All Rights Reserved.