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Old June 11th, 2017, 05:27 PM

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Burning vehicles block LOS but burning trees do not. Strikes me as odd.
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Old June 11th, 2017, 06:37 PM
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I have been meaning to look at the fire and/or smoke values for wrecks for a while - may get round to it for next year's update.

Yep - I think wrecks block LOS rather too much. Be nice to see what others think about it, so feel free to chip in.
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Old June 11th, 2017, 08:21 PM

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May be better for wrecks to have a lower density, so that 2 or more block LOS.

I find that I have to relocate my ATGs too fast after taking out the lead elements, due to their LOS heavily hindered by the wrecks.
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Old June 11th, 2017, 09:01 PM
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My thought is that a burning tank full of oil, fuel, rubber, ammo, etc will burn much hotter and with thicker smoke than a couple of trees that have caught fire.


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I think that I would be inclined to leave it as it is. The flames and smoke dissipate after a while in any case.
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Old June 12th, 2017, 06:59 AM
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Perhaps a bit of randomness would be nice.
Agree as in the picture above tanks can burn violently & sometimes for hours.
On the other hand 3 burning tanks in adjacent hexes would not I suspect in most weather conditions completely block LOS over that 150m area.
Possibly best decided at this scale on should 1 or 2 burning vehicles block LOS down a city road or bridge hex.
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Old June 12th, 2017, 10:00 AM

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I can say that one item concerning a burning tank is that nobody wants to be close to one while it brews up. While one tank may not clear out a full hex, if it was possible code wise, a burning tank should do something akin to reducing the number of units that can be in the hex while it burns or cause units to move/rout out of the hex. A burning tank in a narrow street would block movement as well as LOS.
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Old June 12th, 2017, 11:13 AM

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if it was possible code wise, a burning tank should do something akin to reducing the number of units that can be in the hex while it burns or cause units to move/rout out of the hex.
Destroyed vehicles already cause a bit of suppression to all units from their side that are near by.

While this effect may not be very noticeable for a couple of wrecks, try blowing up dozens of vehicles in a narrow area and even early war German tankers may end up retreating after driving to the area.

(My experiences about blowing up large amounts of early war German tanks in narrow areas are based on the Ruin Rommel scenario that was included in the latest release. Great fun to play, though quite time consuming.)
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The suppression of wrecks is very noticeable. I've gone into a number of battles against Soviet, and only did the minimum of destroying all their light and fast armour. Their KVs rout typically when approaching the wrecks.

Good thing as well, I barely have anything to stop their heavies.
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Tanks sometimes don't catch fire at all and so wouldn't block LOS at all and sometimes take an hour or so to brew up.
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