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Old March 19th, 2008, 05:38 AM
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Are you people really certain that Rain of Stones affects every square in the battlefield? That isn't what I've seen. If you pause the game just at the RoS animation, you see that the visual effect doesn't hit every square, maybe about 1/3 of all. If it'd hit every square, it'd be even better mage-killer than it is currently.

Mistform really is a life-saver, especially against Banefire-casting nations, like LA C'tis...
To save graphics or the watchers eyes, most battle field spells do not display an animation on every square. I think all battlefield spells target the whole field, but there might be exceptions.
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Rain of stones indeed hits everything on the battlefield. Physical damage, so helmets and armor help a lot against it. Otherwise you need luck and/or ethereality.
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Okay, that's what I get for trusting my own eyes.

But then, I assume Twan's interpretation is right, for I've seen many unarmoured mages survive RoS castings? Or should I replace my memory in addition to my eyes?
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Rain of stones indeed hits everything on the battlefield. Physical damage, so helmets and armor help a lot against it. Otherwise you need luck and/or ethereality.
Yes I wasn't thinking so but it was because I often used the spell against undeads who have sufficient protection or hp to often survive one cast. I've done a test using 2000 protection 0 Machaka militia instead and the spell killed 1646 of them, it really hits all units and not one per square (the strange thing is : like previous poster I also remember to have seen many unprotected/unbuffed mages surviving the spell in some games).
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That spell is very good when playing MA Ulm. One out of ten smiths have a chance of casting it.
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That spell is very good when playing MA Ulm. One out of ten smiths have a chance of casting it.
One out of ten smiths have 25% chance of being able to cast it, which is considerably worse. Still, Ulm will get access to it, even though it will probably take a long while.
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Default Re: Rain of stones, and gifts from the sky

There might be a avoidance roll involved, like with earthquake. Not sure, but I think there was such an avoidance with falling frost once. Not sure if there still is. Possibly affected by shields.
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Not with the amount of smiths I usually pump out.
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I've done a test using 2000 protection 0 Machaka militia instead and the spell killed 1646 of them
From what I've also seen, protection/armor/helm doesn't help at all. So the 14+DRN appears to be armor negating, which isn't shown in the game's spell description.

Do avoidance rolls depend on defense #?

Anything else help besides mistform, ethereal, luck, & twistfate?
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Default Re: Rain of stones, and gifts from the sky

not true, protection definitely helps against RoS, but from what I've seen damage varies, some units take more damage than they are suppose to, whereas some units take no damage.

perhaps they make a defense/MR roll against RoS?
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