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DRG November 15th, 2009 08:08 AM

Re: spww2 warzone (ideas for the nextgen)
 
There is NO "ours and "theirs" / "yours" and "mine" in regards to mines, wire DT's etc They treat both sides equally. If this is an issue for you it's because you are continually placing engineer units too close to them while defending so the solution is simple.......... DO NOT place engineers directly adjacent to your own mines/ DT's/wire when defending . When you stop doing that your "problems" will go away.

Don

Souljah November 16th, 2009 05:27 AM

Re: spww2 warzone (ideas for the nextgen)
 
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Originally Posted by Imp (Post 718303)
Agree clearing your own stuff is a problem but this is a very old game, pretty sure if it could be fixed it would have been. The AI on occasion clears its own stuff but you know to leave a one hex space so they dont so not realy a problem for you. Mines & wire are better placed a few hexes away from your troops so they are dealing with when you open up. Alternativly stager a bit with gaps & place your units to engage just after pass through. Now routing units run into them great fun.

Most people do not use bombers very often okay you could argue Stukas Sturmovicks etc 2 men but as said whats the point adds nothing to game play they would try & hide till can make ther way back or surrender.

This is a ground combat game as said previosly air is dealt with abstractly when set to XXX or by you if set number allowed, the games flexible like that its your call.
You want it to be real how often do you think air is intercepted over the battlefield?
WW1 no radar & yes can happen but WW2 they get engaged on the way to or from there strike most times dictated by best intercept vector or shot at by ground units at the target area, thats exactly what the game models which is far more realistic than your idea.

I see... when I said realaistic... I meant the whole game. I think this game has potential to simulate reallike ww2 battles, and modern engagements(MBT). I'm thinkig about to improve the unitselection screen. I had an idea to put another step between the buying and deployment phase. It could be called organizing screen or something liket that. There the player could decide wich units should be commanded by what unit, the motorized units could board their transport vehicle (trucks, airplanes, gliders). For PBEM games, the commander could give objectives which will be represented by a flag (idea is great in the rivalgame)

About unit informations... its poor. How could we improve? We should make a research thread so all player could copy in his informations about units.

What about buyable commanders?

It would be great to be able to buy just a commandunit. We could decide we want an armor commander or an infantry.

Imp November 16th, 2009 06:43 AM

Re: spww2 warzone (ideas for the nextgen)
 
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I'm thinkig about to improve the unitselection screen. I had an idea to put another step between the buying and deployment phase. It could be called organizing screen or something liket that. There the player could decide wich units should be commanded by what unit etc
??? You already have this in the deployment phase cross attachment in HQ screen, assign units to new formations button & you load people here why yet another screen?I suggest reading the guide.

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For PBEM games, the commander could give objectives which will be represented by a flag (idea is great in the rivalgame)
And how often do you use it playing with C&C on in that game is a nightmare really badly done, besides you already have in units screen set waypoints & turn computer control on. Again read the guide but never known anyone use in PBEM ever.

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About unit informations... its poor. How could we improve? We should make a research thread so all player could copy in his informations about units.
More background ability on units would be nice like some have with info button but there are 1000s of them & helps you know how to use them not capabilities.
Capabilities in this game are nice & clear unless a scenerio designer has modified the unit it does exactly what the details list. Unlike rival game more detail & if it says has special ammo etc it does.
Yet again read the guide all the info is at your fingertips


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It would be great to be able to buy just a commandunit. We could decide we want an armor commander or an infantry.
Goes against the nature of the game C&C is abstracted by global exp settings & in some cases adjusting formations so have more or less leaders. Russian tank Company with 1 leader for instance. If you were going to do this should buy all leaders by nation as Russians always had less than say allies or Germans but of course varies over time to.

This is my last post unless you think first as yet again you have suggested stuff it already does or makes the game a more of a game less of a sim, & it does all of them better IMHO than said rival.
Go read the guide then if you have an idea think about how it impacts the game trust me the designers have, the more I understand the game the more I realise everything is just so for a reason. Its this that despite a very limited set of parameters imparts the correct feel to the game & thats what your ideas need to do.
1) How will it effect gameplay
2) Why does it work the way it does already.
3) Is it real life or a gamey idea
Sorry in my view suggestion are good they may spark an idea but think them through a bit before you post & read the guide so you know what it actually does already.

Edit okay reread bit about unit info think you were talking just about info not unit details/capabilities.
So start one but bear in mind designers have to check before they will add it to the game, yet more work so list sources for them.
Not sure how practical it is though as OOB editor does not seem to tag these so any changes & they migrate to the wrong unit, talking green text in info screen here.


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