Re: obat53 update
 

If the Swiss OOB has those "Hogan's Heroes"-esque 120mm mortars disguised as tree-stumps, it might bring me back to MBT http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Re: obat53 update
 

@PatG - if you think of the fortified mortars - yes they in...

Re: obat53 update
 

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more and edited text...

Re: obat53 update
 

This is the Version 3.5 of the 053 Obat.
But with some corrections.
The Formations 22 + 23 had a wrong end date (new is 2020)

The Unit with the Vehicles MOWAG Eagle have been changed.
Eagle IV for example is not in use (yet). The Version Eagle III is a special concept as a FO Vehicle.

Units No changed:
052, Speed 25 (less hp), Named: Aufklw 93 Eagle
259, Named: KdoF Eagle III, Vision: 50 -> needs new LBM, (this one is the Eagle II)
260, is now KdFz Eagle (not Eagle IV)
262, Named: Aufklw 93/97, introduced 1999 (=Eagle II)
263, is now Aufklw Eagle III (not Eagle IV)
270, is now Aufklw Eagle III (not Eagle IV)
893, possible introduced in 2010 (Eagle IV)
894, deleted
897, Speed 25 (less hp), Named: Aufklw 93 Eagle
943, possible Named: Aufklw Eagle IV
944, possible Named: Aufklw Eagle IV

Formations(334 - 349)for the missing para units have been added.

The ZIP File includes some LBM to be added into the PIC Folder of the game.

Re: obat53 update
 

This is "My" Version with reordered Units and Weapons...

I prefer to play this one :-)

Re: obat53 update
 

Pats, why does the "My" version have 8 photos converted to LBM but not numbered?

Contact me off list. I need to re-add your email to my address book anyway.

Don

Re: obat53 update
 

accidently...?!

Here is also a BMP - File of an Eagle III

Re: obat53 update
 

This ZIP file contains two folders.
Both with new/more text files.
One folder for the obat053 V3.5 and the other one for "my" reordered version...

V4.0 obat53 update
 

he, he http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif
The ZIP folder contains two sub folders.
One with a new obat053 V4.0 with some changes and a xls-file which lists those changes... (Eagle and Stgw90 and so on...)
The second folder has some bmp-files I would like to use in my obat (as lbm files). So if someone could please http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/redface.gif

Don't get me wrong, the new version is <font color="red">fabulous </font> and there is NO need to download or even install this updated version. But maybe somebody likes to see what I changed for my self... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

edit:
By the way. this changes are already in "my" reordered version.

obat53 Switzerland
 

Ok, minor fault:

Unit 731 should have only 70 ammo not 90 (HE) shouldn't it?
(155mm Off Map Arty)

Some Units with mounted AA guns have 120 instead of 90 ammo...

obat53 Switzerland
 

This is my new obat53 version based on the 4th update.
:evil:
But carefull it's a reorganized and NOT campatible Version. Only used IF you like to play the Swiss Army. It also contains some LBM files. If you don't no what's to do NOT change your current installation!
:angel

Re: obat53 Switzerland
 

thanks Pats... I always like to use your OOBs.

Re: obat53 Switzerland
 

In v4.0 of the Swiss :swit obat is a minor "fault".:doh:
Unit 952 Bulldozer (Engineer Tank) is available from 1946 - unfortunately the formation 077 Engineer Tanks only from 1963. It should be changed to 1946 otherwise it's not possible to purchase any engineering tank before 1963.

This is corrected in this attached and REORDERED and NOT Compatble version of the obat053. It also contains a new picture and therefore a new Unit (and some changes with the armored cars as I found out they have their units on the outside and not like apc's inside the vehicle). This Unit 007 GMTF(DURO IIIP) is called "Geschuetzter Mannschafts Transport Wagen" based on the DURO truck. But it's armoured and armed and will be ordered next year an introduced to the troops aprox. 2010.

Re: obat53 Switzerland
 

NOT compatible with what?

Re: obat53 Switzerland
 

PBEM, Scenarios, campaigns saved games etc. made BEFORE this download...

Re: obat53 Switzerland
 

Ah, got it, also WHERE's the download link!?

Re: obat53 Switzerland
 

about 4 posts above...:smirk:

obat53 Switzerland error report
 

UNIT 037 SPz 63/89 (M113) should have two smoke dischargers.
(see attachment)

obat53 Switzerland new Picture
 

I have here a nice picture of a 20mm AA Gun (already converted into LBM format) that would be nice to have for Unit 82 in the original obat53 (v4.0).

Maybe the developer like to use this in the next Update.

I named it pm27555.lbm (used in my very own version of the Swiss obat - unit142)

Re: obat53 Switzerland error report
 

And that is one S/D in the game - the number has nothing to do with the physical mountings. There are but 6 tubes in that total array.

Andy

Re: obat53 Switzerland error report
 

OK, one would be ok. But there is none at the moment...

Custom obat53 Switzerland
 

Here is my obat53 :swit(reordered version) for 4.5 (I had to change some of the pictures).

Later in the year (before the next patch in fall) I'll send some information ("error" report) on the actual patch 4.5

Thanks again to the developer.

:nono:
**Warning: DO NOT copy this File into your oob folder if you have a pbem running or using any game involving the Swiss obat!**

Re: obat53 Switzerland
 

I'm not quite sure where this "Next patch in fall" came from but that's the second time I've read it today

We have NO PLANS to issue any further patches for either game this year. What I said in another post is we wouldn't be thinking about STARTING WORK on another patch until the fall.

OK everyone????

Don

Re: obat53 Switzerland
 

That's actualy what i ment:doh:. If wished I can send datas in fall (or later) when you start thinking about a new patch :angel

Re: obat53 Switzerland
 

Here a list of things I found so far in a nearly perfect game :up:

Formations
Formation 023 - end date has to be 120 (2020)

Units
Unit 913 Pz57 was a year later introduced Start date 1 of 58 (not 57) and did have still the 20lb Gun (Weapon 86 instead of 89). The vision should also be only 10 (not 15)
Unit 918 Pz58 (61) The vision should also be only 10 (not 20)

Unit 692 - <4.7cm IK 35/41 (class 2 Inf-AT) is assigned to nation 0 Unknown – I can see why; it’s actually a bit a silly picture for it…it’s more like LBM 684 – I’ll try to find a better one.

Add Formations 336…351 for Orphaned Units - see attached obat53

Weapons
054 - 7.62 Hughes ChG – UNUSED – could be deleted

Suggestions
Unit 034 TransportPz T16 – change Weapon in Slot 1 to 13 instead of 11

Unit 655 Pontonierboot – change name to Motorboot P46
Unit 656 Pontonierboot – change name to Motorboot P46
Unit 657 Pontonierboot – change name to Motorboot P80
Unit 658 Pontonierboot – change name to Motorboot P80

Add a new Unit 501 GMTF(DURO IIIP) – see attached obat53 (NEEDS Picture)
Add Weapon 065 12.7 Mg93 ATMG- see attached obat53 – used by unit 501

Add new Units 502, 503, 504 Motorcylces with SMG’s - see attached obat53
Add new Units 505, 506, 507 Flamethrower teams – see attached obat53
Add new Units 508…520 Infantry with TI vision - see attached obat53
Add new Units 522, 523, 524 Hunter with 1000lbs bombs - see attached obat53
Add Unit 526 Centurion Mk3 from the British for a few month - see attached obat53
Add Unit 528 Motorboot P46 (Variant wit AT-Gun) - see attached obat53

Add a new Unit 530 Armeetaucher (Diver) – see attached obat53
Add Formation 354 for Armeetaucher (Diver Section) – see attached obat53

Add Weapon 063 Langgewehr 1911 - see attached obat53 – used by units
Add Weapon 064 Stgw 90 kurz - see attached obat53 – used by units

Weapon 231 Stgw 90 Swat change Accuracy to 6 (not 1)
Weapon 232 Stgw 90 Cmdo change Accuracy to 6 (not 1)


Pictures (LBM’s)

Gmtf.lbm should be used for the new Unit 501 GMTF(DURU IIIP)

G-13.lbm can be used instead of 25065 (for Units 923, 919)
Pz 39 (LTH).lbm can be used instead of 25094 (for Unit 025 only)

Motorboot P80.lbm can be used instead of 1955 (for Units 657, 658)
Motorboot P46.lbm can be used instead of 13190 (for Units 655, 656)

Stgw 90 Swat.lbm can be use instead of 25087 (for Units 328, 515, 704,711)
Stgw90 Cmdo.lbm can be use instead of 25087 or 45020 (for Units 329, 514, 517, 530, 703, 708, 709, 869)

Hunter1.lbm can be used instead of 8128 (for Units 830, 831, 832, 833, 834, 835)
Hunter2.lbm can be used instead of 8128 (for the new Units 522…524 Hunter with 1000lbs bomb)

And thanks once more to the team!

Re: obat53 Switzerland
 

FASTBOAT TOUGH wrote in his thread "MRAPs and a couple of general questions":
>> 4. Switzerland, Denmark & Germany/MOWAG DURO IIIP/2007/C2 P10/Remote 7.62mm or 40mmAGL/IU/
http://www.military-today.com/apc/mowag_duro_iiip.htm

>>I had in this thread:
Add a new Unit 501 GMTF(DURO IIIP) – see attached obat53 (NEEDS Picture)
Add Weapon 065 12.7 Mg93 ATMG- see attached obat53 – used by unit 501
Gmtf.lbm should be used for the new Unit 501 GMTF(DURU IIIP)

that's the same light apc...


@Don
to answer your question...

> Can you give me some links to information on the LPz 2000 please.
> All I can find is it's a private venture AKA "CV90120-T". I can find no
> information indicating it's in service anywhere

>> used to be here http://www.ruag.ch/Land_Systems/Heavy_weapon_systems, but seems to be removed a while ago and the project cancelled.

Re: obat53 Switzerland
 

Yep. It's been removed from the OOB

Don

Re: obat53 Switzerland
 

It's still listed here:

http://www.army-technology.com/projects/cv90/

quote:
CV90120-T tank
The CV90120-T is a light tank which has a Hagglund turret mounted on the latest CV90 chassis. RUAG Land Systems of Switzerland has developed the fully stabilised 120mm high-pressure smoothbore CTG 120/L50 gun, which has a rate of fire of up to 14 rounds a minute.

Saab Systems of Sweden has developed the fire control system, UTAAS, and the panoramic low-signature commander's sight which give the tank hunter / killer capability.

The tank's battlefield management system is based on fully integrated, scalable and open electronic architecture and a video network with displays at each crew station...

...but not in service or even purchased anywhere.

Re: obat53 Switzerland
 

obat 53
unit 075
the crew no of 3 should be reduced to 2
(like all other Dragon teams)

Re: obat53 Switzerland
 

ok, I have some isues with lbm-pictures in the Swiss oob.

Units 501 (lbm 32001), 522, 523, 524 (lbm 32002) are missing the pictures.
Also Units 830-835 (lbm 32003).

For Units 858, 859, 860, 861 and 839, 840 I would have this picture (attached).

Re: obat53 Switzerland
 

Those photos were done and are in my working game but were not copied into the patch. I'll need to double check if any more were missed

Don

Re: obat53 Switzerland
 

There were four photos missed all in the Swiss OOB.

Here they are. I've put them in the next pach folder as well

Don

new obat53 Switzerland
 

First thanks (once more) to the developer.

Here is my obat53 (reordered version) for 5.0 - enjoy

**Warning: DO NOT copy this File into your oob folder if you have a pbem running or curently using any game involving the Swiss obat!**

It might be necessary to download the pictures from DON's post (above)

I hope there are not to many faults ;)

Re: obat53 Switzerland
 

Don't even think about copying any modified OOB into your OOB folder directly.

Create a sub-folder to unzip the modified OOB(s) into, and use the OOB swap utility to load the mod when needed, or to reload the official one when required from the backup set of official oobs included for that purpose. ( Located in Game Data\OOBs\Default OOBs).

Photos will go in the usual folder - cannot be swapped in and out, but do not affect game play (but weirdness can occur if the OOB modder has overwritten stock pictures!).

However, if the mod has a changed AI pick list then you have problems as AI picks cannot be swapped and they will affect any AI purchase if you try swapping the default OOB back in - see the sticky at the top, ie basically create a brand new game installation for such AI mods.

See the Game Guide -> Game Installation -> Manage OOB Sets for the default case (modified OOB with no AI pick list changes)

cheers
Andy

obat53 Switzerland - Light SP Mortar
 

By the end of 2009 all the Sp Mortar (12cm) are out of service.

Unit 883 should have a end date of 12/109
Units 884 & 971 can be deleted

Formation 322 get also end date 12/109 (last service in April 2009)
Formations 93/94 need also end date 12/109


The 120mm Mortar (Infantry) Units 174 and 729 were phased out off service sometimes arround 2004-2006

There are discussions going on to bring them back (the officers didn't were very happy to loose such powerful support...)


source (in German):
http://www.infbat70.ch/default.asp?V_ITEM_ID=4665

obat53 Switzerland - Artillery (field guns)
 

Hi everyone
Based on my investigations on Swiss (obat053) artillery here some sugestions for the next release:

:)First on-map field guns:

unit 047 and 048; 155mm howitzer - didn't found any evidence they were ever used by the Swiss army - could be removed
unit 090 10.5cm Kan 35 with Weapon (Slot 1) 110 10.5cm Kan42 - see Weapon entry below (Kan35)
unit 091 10.5cm Haubitze with Weapon (Slot 1) 111 10.5cm Hbz46 - Date 1/46 - 12/79 (not until 12/105)
unit 092 155mm Howitzer with Weapon (Slot 1) 112 155mm M-42 FH - change name in 15cm Hb 42 and enddate 1/79

create new units:

clone from unit 090 - but change date: from 1/65 until 12/94, and Weapon 005 in slot 2 into Weapon 007
clone from unit 091 - name it 10.5cm Hb 42; Weapon 111 in slot 1 should be changed to the clone of it (10.cm Hb42 see weapon entry below); Date 1/46 - 12/79
clone from unit 091 - name it 10.5cm Hb 46; change date: from 1/65 until 12/94, and Weapon 005 in slot 2 into Weapon 007
clone from unit 091 - name it 10.5cm Hb 46; change date: from 1/80 until 12/94, and Weapon 005 in slot 2 into Weapon 007, and vision to 10
clone from unit 091 - name it 10.5cm Hb46/91; change date: from 1/91 until 12/94, and Weapon 005 in slot 2 into Weapon 007, and Weapon 111 in slot 1 into Weapon 109,
and vision to 10, and HEAT ammo to 0
clone from unit 091 - name it 10.5cm Hb46/91; change date: from 1/94 until 12/94, and Weapon 005 in slot 2 into Weapon 008, and Weapon 111 in slot 1 into Weapon 109,
and vision to 10, and HEAT ammo to 0
clone from unit 092 - name it 15cm Hb 42; change date: from 1/65 until 1/79, and Weapon 005 in slot 2 into Weapon 007

The crew numbers for unit 91 and 92 (and their clones) could be increased by 1 (total of 7 and 9)



Therefore following weapons need to be adjustet (manly new names) or looked at:

109 10.5cm Hbz46/91 is correct
110 10.5cm Kan42 must actually be 10.5cm Kan35
111 10.5cm Hbz46 is correct it's the same as Hbz42 (wich should be added as a clon from Weapon 111 and named as 10.5cm Hbz42)
112 155mm M-42 FH should be 15cm Hb 42 L28 - that seems to be the correct name for the only ever used heavy (over 105mm) field gun.
140 155mm M-50 FH I would leave it in for the PzArtK68 (SP Artillery) prototypes.



:)Second off-map field guns:

unit 049 M-50 155mm as before - could be removed
unit 053 10.5cm Kan 42 - see Weapon entry above (Kan35)
unit 054 10.5cm Hbz 46 - correct
unit 055 M-42 155mm FH - End date 12/79

unit 267 10.5cm Hbz+ - End date 12/94
unit 268 10.5cm Hbz+ - End date 12/94

unit 731 M-50 155mm as before - could be removed
unit 732 10.5cm Kan 42 - see Weapon entry above (Kan35)
unit 733 10.5cm Hbz 46 - correct
unit 734 M-42 155mm FH - End date 12/79


Formations:

End dates might need to be adjustet


source:
http://www.sieber-online.ch/artiller...ntwicklung.htm


next I'll look at the AA-guns

When that's done I will upload a new reordered version of my own.:D

obat53 Switzerland - Flak
 

There are ore were three classes of the Swiss AA guns (called Flab = Fliegerabwehr), light, medium and heavy (=sch).

The haevy flak after WWII was the 7.5 cm Flab (Unit 758) which could do with a new LBM (24964 attached) and with Icon 61.
Also name it 7.5cm Sch Flab
This heavy AA was often used fortified (unit 757) but with end date 12/68

Later the 7.5cm Sch Flab was replaced by area SAMs Bloodhound and then Rapier wich is still in service under the heavy AA
(no change here as I cheked those earlier).

The medium flak is covered by the 34mm Flab 38 (unit 085) wich ended not before 12/65. I think Icon 1981 fits better too.
(Radio code might be better of with 30 too)
It even needs a clon that last from 1/63 until 12/89 (!) but with weapon 007 in slot 2
Units 086 - 089 and 755 are the newer medium flak (35mm KDB) They seem to be ok.


Now with the light flak it seems to need the biggest adjustment.
An other typically fortified flak was the 20mm Flab 54/60 wich needs to be created.
It has two 20mm AA-Guns (which weapon isn't existing yet) and is mounted on a concrete socket.
It could be cloned from unit 757 but needs lots of adjustments (mod original 5.0 obat53 is attached).

The three existing 20mm flak in the obat might be expended to 16 units (!)
Unit 082 20mm Flab 44 thats actually not to bad, but it must be 20mm Flab 43 (also the weapon 068 is 20mm AA-Gun 43), end date 12/57.
Unit 083 20mm Flab 57 must be the 20mm flab 43/57, end date 12/69, maybe Icon 411
Unit 084 20mm Flab 54 end date 12/69
That leaves us with 13 new units, wich are mainly modifications (clones) from unit 083 and 084.

new unit 20mm Flab 38 from 1/46 - 12/65 with new weaopon 20mm AA-Gun 38 Weapon 5 in slot 2, Range finder and Fire control 3
new unit 20mm Flab 38 from 1/63 - 12/72 with new weaopon 20mm AA-Gun 38 Weapon 7 in slot 2, Range finder and Fire control 3
the radio should be 41 or 31 (mod original 5.0 obat53 is attached).

new unit 20mm Flab 43/50 earlier variant (clone) of unit 083. Dating from 1/46 - 12/59, Radio 41, Range finder 3

new unit 20mm Flab 54 clone of unit 084 Dating from 1/63 - 12/74, weapon 007 in slot 2
new unit 20mm Flab 54 clone of unit 084 Dating from 1/70 - 12/74, Fire control 6, weapon 007 in slot 2
new unit 20mm Flab 54 clone of unit 084 Dating from 1/74 - 12/97, Fire control 7, weapon 007 in slot 2
new unit 20mm Flab 54 clone of unit 084 Dating from 1/75 - 12/97, Fire control 8, weapon 007 in slot 2
new unit 20mm Flab 54 clone of unit 084 Dating from 1/77 - 12/97, Fire control 8, vision 10, weapon 007 in slot 2

new unit 20mm Flab 43/57 clone of unit 083 Dating from 1/63 - 12/74, weapon 007 in slot 2
new unit 20mm Flab 43/57 clone of unit 083 Dating from 1/70 - 12/74, Fire control 6, weapon 007 in slot 2
new unit 20mm Flab 43/57 clone of unit 083 Dating from 1/74 - 12/83, Fire control 7, weapon 007 in slot 2
new unit 20mm Flab 43/57 clone of unit 083 Dating from 1/75 - 12/87, Fire control 8, weapon 007 in slot 2
new unit 20mm Flab 43/57 clone of unit 083 Dating from 1/77 - 12/87, Fire control 8, vision 10, weapon 007 in slot 2

and other new interesting units would be
7.5mm Doppel Mg (double Mg) with 7.5mm (2) AAMG which needs to be added to the weapon list.
One dating from 1/46 until 12/65 and the other from 1/63 until 12/72 (change the second weapon from 5 to 7), Icon 634?

the 20mm SP flak (unit 043 - 20mm AA dodge) from the austrian obat46 could be added as well (1/61 - 12/67)

I also found some pictres but nothing realy usable in the game due copyright isues or low quality.
I've put some in as attachemnt anyway for some impressions.

source: http://www.amicale-dca.ch/kalter_krieg.htm

Re: obat53 Switzerland
 

Pats, has this OOB been altered ONLY with these changes you noted and nothing else ?

Don

Re: obat53 Switzerland
 

Yes I used the default obat to add those artillery and flak and changed the existing (Arty and AA). But nothing before that (the mortars for example). But to be on the save side you might just copy/paste the ones out you'd like to.
Same with the weapons.

The formations though need to be checked!

(I did change a lot more in my "reordered" version but nothing "important", mainly names and radio codes...)

Re: obat53 Switzerland
 

Modified oob (Switzerland).

enjoy :)


File includes two LBM's (Pictures) for the attached oob.
Only recomended for expirienced users :angel


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Re: obat53 Switzerland
 

Pats, is this modified from the official game OOB or your re-organized one ?

Don

Re: obat53 Switzerland
 

"highly altered" means in this case also re-organized :rolleyes:

Re: obat53 Switzerland
 

Pats

I enjoy your OOB's and play the Swiss a lot. Your renaming, etc brings authenticity to it.

Thanks

Re: obat53 Switzerland
 

v5.5 - obat53

Unit 801 has no Weapon 1 should be No 112
Unit 802 has wrong Weapon 1 should be No 110

Some Weapon mix ups for units 775-792 deatails later when I checked.

Re: obat53 Switzerland
 

v5.5 - obat53

Unit 776 Weapon 1 should be 79
Unit 779 Weapon 1 should be 69
Units 785,786,787,788,789 should have Weapon 1 No 69 (tripple 20mm)

Re: obat53 Switzerland
 

Is it possible that the Picture LBM 12041 has been altered?

It is more likely the M109A7 or Paladin Unit 042 in obat12 (PzHb88 in obat53) then M109A1 or A2 Units 040 + 041 in obat12 (PzHb74+79 in obat53), what it used to be (at least in the swiss an us OOB).

A Good picture for all A1 and A2 variants would be LBM 8013 (Unit40 obat12) I think. Or the old LBM 12041 ...

The difference you can recocnize at the back of the tower (The Icon shows that nicely).

Re: obat53 Switzerland
 

This is my reorganised and altered obat53 for the Swiss army.
(The final one for this version...)
In the basics it's the same as the original but some of the units have different names and dates.

The ai picklist works fine but any campaign or scenario started with the original obat won't work proper any more.


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obat53 Switzerland v6.0 report
 

As usual biggest thanks to the team first.:up:
Here what I think could be seen as minor "Hickups" to a otherwise (for me) nearly perfect oob :D

Unit 025 had, according to this page, http://www.militaerfahrzeuge.ch/unte..._13_10_44.html, 1 mg 7,5 mm Lmg 25, 2 mg 7,5 mm Pzw Mg 38.
So The 7.5mm LMg 25 LMG (Wepon 10 in slot 4) is missing.
Unit 020 seems to have still the LBM (25070) from Unit 024 instead from Unit 021 (8013) (back of turret)
Unit 026, without the extra armor it still should use Icon 1417 and 2587
Unit 057 has still the LBM 12041 instead of LBM 24977
Unit 075 Dragon Unit, Why are there 3 crew members, all the others Dragon units in the oob have a crew of 2.
Unit 094 Machine Gun Section, this is the only one with size 1
Unit 118 could still use LBM 25036
Unit 201 wrong LBM should be 25088 like other bunker
Unit 216 and Unit 219 need a ROF
Unit 231, Unit 908 and Unit 909 crew 10 and size 3 recommended
Unit 291 Weapon 2 still 5 not 215
Unit 618 avaiability recommended from 1/48 until 12/59
Unit 619 and Unit 623 don't need ROF
Unit 635 according to this page http://www.militaerfahrzeuge.ch/unte..._13_17_56.html no weapon
Unit 637 obsolete it hasn't a blade attachet, it's useless in MBT, only has crane.
Unit 639 should have a 12.7mm MG (according to http://www.militaerfahrzeuge.ch/unte..._13_17_55.html) better Icon 2091
Unit 741 from 1/63 but Weapon 13 instead
Unit 922 Swiss version didn't have the 0.5 TMG (AFAIK)

obat53 Switzerland - personalized version of 7.0
 

"This mod contains highly altered or additional files that may or will cause interference with the master game files and it is HIGHLY RECOMMENDED that this mod be installed and played ONLY in a separate copy of the game and NOT run from the master game"

:up: The Version 7.0 is, as it is nearly perfect and clearly enough for most poeple to play the Swiss OOB. So again thanks a lot to the developers.

:D I still prefer to have my own "personalized" Version - so if there is anyone who finds this more enjoiable use this Version of the obat53 (SWISS).
Is there any LBM missing please let me know here, and I will upload it as well.

Major differences are, some Dates (avaiability), Units (names) and wapons (Designation). A few new Units. Formations shouldn't be different at all (AFAIK).

obat53 Switzerland - personalized version of 7.0
 

This Time I revorked ALL the planes :angel
based on this page http://saf.hermannkeist.ch/
and others,
and some of the helos.

~Units 582 - 664 & 720 - 742 & 810 - 834

If someone knows better Icons or LBMs please let me know...

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