Re: The Neo-expansion pack. Version 1.30 available now!
 

So, how is NXP coming, dogscoff?

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Re: The Neo-expansion pack. Version 1.30 available now!
 

Hi,

I want to put some of the races (eventualy all) thta i have using the Neo ships.

Right now, i need to know what i need to add / modify in the txt files to use the ships.

If possible, in a way that only the races that i want (the ones thta i have the ships pics)use it.

One of the ideas is to have only one race with that capability and trying to fight against / for that one.

Anyone can help me ?

Re: The Neo-expansion pack. Version 1.30 available now!
 

dogscoff, Hey Boss! Are we ready to start working on your NXP, yet??? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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[ February 17, 2003, 12:13: Message edited by: mlmbd ]

Re: The Neo-expansion pack. Version 1.30 available now!
 

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">OK, the neostandard isn't a set of new ships, it's a set of new images. It sounds pedantic, but there's a vital difference.

To answer your question, you don't necessarily need to add anything- just install the neo-expansion pack, then play a game using devnullmod or P&N or Proportions or something. You will soon see neostandard images.

If you still want to modify the text files, that's not a problem, you'd need to make a few additions to your vehiclesize.txt file.
There are plenty of modders and faqs 'round here that can tell you how that file works, but what values you add is entirely up to your imagination- it would be your mod after all. (That's the vital difference I mentioned earlier http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif )

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">In SE4 gold, every entry in vehiclesize.txt can have a primary and a secondary image attached to it.

I'll clarify thius with an example: In the standard game, the baseship will use baseship.bmp if it is available, and if it isn't available the baseship uses the starbase image. What this boils down to is that if a particular image is unavailable for a particular race - it doesn't matter at all.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">As I said in the previous paragraph, missing image(s) do not require that a particular race go without certain ship sizes.

Having certain hulls only available to certain races is a possibility though. It's not simple, but it is possibile. Take a look at the data files for Pirates and Nomads, (look at the tech requirememtns in vehiclesize.txt) and see how certain hulls are only available to nomad races.

If none of the above makes any sense to you and you are still worried, my advice would be to install the neo-expansion pack and forget about it. You don't need to do anything more to benefit from the extra images supplied, and having them there will not create any kind of incompatibility or imbalance. They'll just sit there waiting to be used by a mod like the ones mentioned above.

Re: The Neo-expansion pack. Version 1.30 available now!
 

Wow.... I like ALL of the new ships...

I'm not an artist, but I do like the art!

Keep up the good work.

KirbyEF

Re: The Neo-expansion pack. Version 1.30 available now!
 

dogscoff, now it is back to the salt mines for me. Just finish one thing, just to start on another! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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If you want, I can host it on Imagemodserver.

The uptime isn't terribly great, but I've got a Gigabyte of space free and a plain HTML status indicator light you can display.

Re: The Neo-expansion pack. Version 1.30 available now!
 

Version 1.20 is now out.

Thanks for the offer S_J. I'm happy to host the two files I've got. You're certainly welcom to mirror them. If there's demand for a 1.00>1.20 update zip I'll let you know=-)

Re: The Neo-expansion pack. Version 1.30 available now!
 

OK ladies and gentlemen, I plan to upload a massive update to the neo-expansion tonight. This will be Version 1.20

Some of the featured images:
-Xi-Chung infantry
-A complete set of worldships: every race now has one.
-A full set of Ukratal neo-standard images.
-Much much more.

IMPORTANT However.... IMPORTANT

Due to server space restrictions I am only going to upload the complete Version 1.20 and the 1.10 > 1.20 upgrade zip.

Therefore, in order to fully install 1.20 without downloadin the entire 1.5meg zip, you must first have Version 1.10 on your system. If you are still using Version 1.00 of the neo-expansion and don't want the big download, you need to download 1.10 first, but the 1.10 files will be disappearing in the next 6 hours or so, so hurry!.

Version 1.10 is available by clicking here for a limited time only. Hurry, hurry, hurry!

Check your current Version by reading the se4\pictures\races\neo-expansion_readme.txt file on your system. If you don't have that file, you probably don't have the neo-expansion installed at all.

*Disclaimer*
============
If you don't know what I'm talking about but are worried by the urgency of it, don't worry. It's nice to have the latest Version of the neo-expansion installed, but you can live without it=-)

Read the rest of this thread to learn more. post questions if necessary.

[ March 12, 2003, 12:10: Message edited by: dogscoff ]

Re: The Neo-expansion pack. Version 1.30 available now!
 

*bump*

Anyone interested in this? Here, I'll even provide a direct URL for you...

Re: The Neo-expansion pack. Version 1.30 available now!
 

How large is the file? Perhaps I can mirror them at the ASTmod site as well.

Re: The Neo-expansion pack. Version 1.30 available now!
 

Well, the complete download is 1.5 meg, and the update is about 600k.

When I asked "is anyone interested?" I actually meant "has anyone actually downloaded the new Version?". Given the lack of response I just wondered if anyone was even using the neo-expansion, or if somehow the new update had slipped past unnoticed.

Like I say, I'm happy to continue hosting the 2 files I have. I wasn't crying out for people to host anything, because despite the fuss I made over yesterday's post I'm really not sure anyone will actually want anything more than what's already available- I just wanted to give people warning.

However, if anyone wants to mirror the neo-expansion then that's absolutely fine as far as I'm concerned.

Re: The Neo-expansion pack. Version 1.30 available now!
 

http://www.sandman43.fsnet.co.uk/ima...opInfantry.gif
Xi-chung infantry.

http://www.sandman43.fsnet.co.uk/ima...rceStation.gif
Ukratal resource Station

http://www.sandman43.fsnet.co.uk/ima..._TroopHuge.gif
Jraenar huge troop

http://www.sandman43.fsnet.co.uk/ima..._WorldShip.gif
Praetorian Worldship

Impressed? Download the whole set here!

Then come back to this thread and let me know what you think. Please?

Re: The Neo-expansion pack. Version 1.30 available now!
 

Webpage Bug report:
In the Sergetti section the HTML is displaying the infantry pics instead of the Massive fighter pics.

Re: The Neo-expansion pack. Version 1.30 available now!
 

thanks sj, fixed.

Re: The Neo-expansion pack. Version 1.30 available now!
 

dogscoff, hey BOSS, we do nice work. If I do say so myself. And I do!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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Re: The Neo-expansion pack. Version 1.30 available now!
 

OK, I'm planning to upload Version 1.30 any day now. For anyone still languishing on V1.10 but hoping to patch their way up to 1.30 without downloading the full pack, i recommend you upgrade to 1.20 soon, because the 1.10 > 1.20 patch will become unavailable very soon.

*Dogscoff wonders if this message will make it into the mysterious Land of Lurk, where Mlmbd (who is responsible for at least half of the 1.30 release) may or may not still reside.

Re: The Neo-expansion pack. Version 1.30 available now!
 

yeah, where is mumbled? i havn't seen him in a long while, i don't think.

Re: The Neo-expansion pack. Version 1.30 available now!
 

Right then. Version 1.30 has been uploaded- If you're still stuck on 1.10 or 1.00 then I'm afraid you'll have to download the whole lot.

However if you have Version 1.20 you can download a patch to take you 1.30 without downloading all the images you already have.

If you don't knwow what Version you have, take a look in you pictures folder for your neoexpansion_readme.txt file.

http://www.sandman43.fsnet.co.uk/neostandexpansion.htm

[ February 16, 2004, 18:24: Message edited by: dogscoff ]

Re: The Neo-expansion pack. Version 1.30 available now!
 

Bloody Awsome! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Re: The Neo-expansion pack. Version 1.30 available now!
 

If your up to it, most of the newer sets on my site are now Neo-Standard.

Starblazers, Gamilon, Kealon, etc. They should say if they are are not. I don't remember. But I do believe the two sets by CNC are Neo-Standard. (Plus a couple more images each I think.)

Re: The Neo-expansion pack. Version 1.30 available now!
 

Good work on the latest neo expansion pack - you will have to do a 1.40 id say once the new patch of Version 1.9? is realised.

Re: The Neo-expansion pack. Version 1.30 available now!
 

Why would the new patch of SE4 require a new Version of the neoexpansion pack? It is just images, not affected in the slightest by a new SE4 patch. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif

Re: The Neo-expansion pack. Version 1.30 available now!
 

We need to get the latest list for the Neo Standard +, ++, and +++.

I am also working on making most of the Trek sets Neo Standard, but I tellya, time.

Re: The Neo-expansion pack. Version 1.30 available now!
 

Well... With the new se4 patch adding the ability to create research bases and such, I suspect the resource station and resource ship images might start coming into play a little more. I've tried to reflect that to a certain extent (ie two or three images=-) in 1.30 but 1.40 might well use more.

OzziePaul: That said, 1.40 is probably a long way off, since I am planning to tie up some other projects (KanesS, Vikings/ Valkyrie, numerous commissioned images, certain unfinished works of fanfic) before work starts in earnest on the next NXP release. It will also be slowed because I don't have Mlmbd helping me out any more. If anyone wants to jump into his boots and submit images for 1.40 though, I will be glad to accept them. From the start i have been hoping that others would chip in on this project.

AT: The only full neo++ list I'm aware of is available on the encyclopedia malfadorica, which at first click appears to be broken, but click 'refresh' and it usually starts working. There are probably 3 or 4 shipsets using this full list so far, and many more using little bits of it. However it's worth bearing in mind that most of the list was designed around early Versions of Fyron's adamant mod, which seems to have changed/ added sizes since the ++ list was made.

Personally in shipset design I would ignore most of the ++ sizes, and just cover proportions and admant: That means starliner, elite infantry, some extra mine/sat sizes if you like, and then add in the large starliner and all the light/heavy frigate and whatnot from Adamant's data files. Oh, and maybe DreadnoughtHeavy for the sake of S_J's new mod. That's what I'm doing with the KanesS anyway.
Oh, and I think you're just kidding when you talk about + and +++ sets, but just in case you're not- there's no such thing=-)

Also, I'm not planning to include ++ images in the NXP. When finished the nxp will contain over 400 images anyway, and all the additional ++ ones would push the download size into the realms of dialup lunacy. However, there is the Proportional Response Pack, which may yet expand to include elite infantry and starliners for the regular races, and if anyone wants to kick off a nxp++ expansion pack to mop up what's left then that would be great.

Anyone who has read the Last three paragraphs and actually been interested in them might like to look at the project.xls file included in the latest neo-expansion zip.

Fyron (and slightly OT): You'll be glad to hear that some or all of your adamant sizes will probably (eventually) make it into the (KanesS set. I'm hoping to have a releasable Version of the set ready this weekend, and then your adamant pics would be added to it later. However I've already got a light frigate in there for you, and I've made a list of all the extra sizes I could find in your vehiclesizes txt. Anyway, I wanted to ask about the merc ships- Are they designed to use the generic set or should I include a set of recoloured KanesS warships (I'm thinking blue/white) to serve as mercs?

EDIT: Lots of unnecessary hyperlinks added, because I'm in that kind of mood this morning.

[ February 19, 2004, 09:07: Message edited by: dogscoff ]

Re: The Neo-expansion pack. Version 1.30 available now!
 

Here it is! The Long-awaited Ne-expansion pack version 1.40 has arrived! This is the biggest ever update to the NXP, sporting more than 50 image! That's more than the first ever release!
With this release:

- All races now have a scout image!
- At least two new images for each shipset*
- At least one new image of each type*
- Two new infantry pics, included the official release of Sgt Squiddie!

Download it now at http://www.dogscoff.co.uk/neoexpansiondownload.htm



*Except those already complete, of course

Re: The Neo-expansion pack. Version 1.30 available
 

Is this for SEV or SEIV?

Re: The Neo-expansion pack. Version 1.30 available
 

SEIV