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DRG May 23rd, 2025 07:21 AM

Re: MBT's
 
I'll add another option

In my master Ukrainian OOB there is a "M1A1 Cage" in slot 756https://i.imgur.com/xo1N5dn_d.png?ma...&fidelity=high

https://i.imgur.com/aGGvHoY_d.png?ma...&fidelity=high

Right now it has an end date of 9/125....... why 9/125 ? IDK exactly. I suspect I added this between when I slipped and fell on the ice and when I was admitted to hospital and don't remember anything for three weeks BUT it's an MIA1 with ERA added and with the date extended to 12/130 I think it would be ideal as the Australian addition to the Ukrainian inventory of M1A1's without adding a separate unit that does the same thing.........and it's green

FASTBOAT TOUGH May 23rd, 2025 11:02 AM

Re: MBT's
 
That solution will work.

However, if I may suggest, you might want to increase the TI/GSR to 45 so that it'll match the current in game Ukrainian ABRAMS UKR* UNIT 714 just a thought.

Otherwise looks very good.

Regards,
Pat
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FASTBOAT TOUGH June 11th, 2025 02:23 AM

Re: MBT's
 
I believe I already submitted a change due to the training etc. I normally make allowances for, if not here we go...
CHANGE/M1A2T/UNIT 025/CHANGE/START/OCT 2025/VICE/NOV 2024.//
Second shipment confirmed enroute to arrive shortly if not just getting there now.
From the ref. Para 3..."As of June 2025, Taiwan’s Army has received 38 M1A2T tanks (First batch-mine.) currently used for conversion training by the 584th Armored Brigade at the Armor Training Command. This brigade, based in Hsinchu, is expected to be reinforced with the incoming batch. The tanks are scheduled to conduct their first live-fire exercises between June 18 and 27at the newly developed Kengzikou training range in Hsinchu County."

From the ref. Para 5..."This event would follow live-fire certification exercises in late June and the formal fielding of the first operational unit later in 2025."

This would seem to reflect the thinking of the USA in fielding our tanks such as ICO M1A2 SEP 2 was I believe 8 Brigades (or Battalions, it was a long time ago when I posted that bit of information.) were equipped before it was fielded.

Also from Para 5...
"The older CM12 tanks have been completely decommissioned and transferred to the Armament and Maintenance Development Center for dismantling and parts recovery."

"M60A3 tanks are scheduled for limited upgrades, while CM11 tanks will be progressively placed into storage."

To the M60A3 seen reports to indicate they will get a new FCS, Ceramic or Applique armor, ERA (Maybe) and less likely though mentioned a 120mm MG.

I'll have to get back into the OOB to recommend REASONABLE END dates for the CM11 and CM12 tanks.
https://www.armyrecognition.com/news...hinese-threats


Regards,
Pat
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Blazing 88's July 16th, 2025 01:23 PM

Re: MBT's
 
Russia develops new assault tank armed with 152mm howitzer to maximize firepower against fortified targets
https://armyrecognition.com/news/arm...tified-targets

https://armyrecognition.com/template...-ee3b52d2.webp

FASTBOAT TOUGH July 17th, 2025 01:12 AM

Re: MBT's
 
Let me "TEMP Down" the lead "tag line" of the last post with the following which is the 1st sentence from the ref....
On June 18, 2025, a Russian patent filed by a team of engineers affiliated with the Yuri Gagarin State Technical University in Saratov described a new concept for a heavily modified assault tank.

So they have a blue print of a proposed tank with supporting documents.

Russia will be hard pressed to pay for this tank especially in retooling tank production lines so that they can manufacture it.
https://www.armyrecognition.com/news...tified-targets

The South Korean K1A2 just recently made it's first appearance in Australia. The data when I submitted this tank in the last Patch I believe, was somewhat ambiguous as to whether it would be equipped (Though my refs. did say it would be compatible to do so.) with the KSTAM.

The article is saying it was indeed equipped with the KSTAM.

I'm thinking maybe for UNIT 027 dropping weapon slot 4 7.62mm M60 AAMG and replacing it w/KSTAM.

Thoughts?


https://www.armyrecognition.com/news...-2025-exercise

Regards,
Pat
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DRG July 18th, 2025 08:03 AM

Re: MBT's
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FASTBOAT TOUGH (Post 857725)
The South Korean K1A2 just recently made it's first appearance in Australia. The data when I submitted this tank in the last Patch I believe, was somewhat ambiguous as to whether it would be equipped (Though my refs. did say it would be compatible to do so.) with the KSTAM.

The article is saying it was indeed equipped with the KSTAM.

I'm thinking maybe for UNIT 027 dropping weapon slot 4 7.62mm M60 AAMG and replacing it w/KSTAM.

Thoughts?


https://www.armyrecognition.com/news...-2025-exercise

Regards,
Pat
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For now, I have added the KSTAM to weapons slot 163 of Australia.......which is the same WS SK uses for the KSTAM

There was a bit of misdirection in that post
Quote:

The South Korean K1A2 just recently made it's first appearance in Australia.
But there is no K1A2 in the Australian OOB.....but there is in SK so I have put the KSTAM into the Australian OOB ( we have the space ).... but it's there for now but the K1A2 is not until we get solid info that Australia is using them.................... And this post would indicate that Austrailia is just the place they were seen recently


Quote:

A South Korean Marine Corps K1A2 main battle tank made its debut in Australia during Exercise Talisman Sabre 2025, showcasing its firepower at SWBTA alongside 35,000 troops from 19 nations in the Indo-Pacific’s largest military exercise.
What I WILL do is add a K1A2+ to SK unit 28 set up like you suggest.

FOR THE RECORD: I just woke up, I had a very "bad day" yesterday and hoping this one is not it's evil twin.......... and I am a little slower on the uptake than I was 6 months ago.:eek:

DRG July 18th, 2025 08:20 AM

Re: MBT's
 
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As for the Russian Assault tank.......

Right now it's an "interesting line drawing"

https://forum.shrapnelgames.com/atta...1&d=1752843978

I haven't totally " lost it"........yet:D

A variation

https://i.imgur.com/TqYcdVJ.png

FASTBOAT TOUGH July 22nd, 2025 01:36 AM

Re: MBT's
 
Don sorry the delay. You'll be getting a PM from me and we'll leave it at that here.

Just going to do this "by the numbers" pertaining to my last Post #1995.

First again only a blueprint for a patent has been submitted for that Russian Urban Assault tank (18/19 June 2025).

Not even any Western country can get from Blueprint to fielding a tank within 5yrs.

That being said, as usual the ICON looks fantastic!

Now to the "SK" K1A2...

1. Concerning KSTAM the weapon is NOT exported to any other country. Types...
A. KSTAM I Was developed with the cooperation of Israel. It was developed from the Israeli 105mm EXCALIBUR round. Range was between 2.5km to 5km. Penetration unknown but is considered one of the best Top Attack weapons in the world. It was taken out of service by the following somewhere I believe between 2018 - 2020.

B. KSTAM II Was also jointly developed this time with DIEHL of Germany. The basis for development was from the German SMart 155 round. KSTAM II range is at least 8km and possibly out to 10km. In-service for K2 and now also as documented the K1A2 since at least 2020 confirmed to possibly 2018.

Both KSTAM systems are top attack and apparently very effective. I am reminded that both are inline with STRIX in basic operations I.E. Shoot and Forget, High Trajectory, Parachute enabled w/Radar/Visual detection and secondary rocket assisted attack mode.

2. K1A2 is NOT exported. The article was just noting it's rare or not previously operated outside of Korea before the International Exercise Australia is currently in.
https://www.npr.org/2025/07/14/g-s1-...ions-australia
Note KIA2 is pictured on top.


3. You can safely delete the KIA2 from Australia.

4. I HIGHLY concur in your decision to add to South Korea the K1A2+.

Just forgot... have seen graphs showing PALIDAN (Or older models.) plus I believe an 8x8 artillery platforms also firing KSTAM. This would make sense and not much different than the French BONUS or others.

Sorry for any confusion this caused.

Regards,
Pat
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DRG July 22nd, 2025 08:06 AM

Re: MBT's
 
KIA2 was never put in Australia just the weapon KSTAM but that was removed the next day so "no worries"

DRG July 22nd, 2025 08:11 AM

Re: MBT's
 
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Quote:

Originally Posted by FASTBOAT TOUGH (Post 857729)

That being said, as usual the ICON looks fantastic!


Some Icons just "work" better than others and inspire further work

https://forum.shrapnelgames.com/atta...1&d=1753186210


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