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ano April 7th, 2009 04:20 PM

Re: Did you know that? (Dominions trivia)
 
Tested a bit more. Even 15% innate bonus on a mage is enough. This means Taimai elders and LA Ulm Black priests can also make free items if they have luck to find construction bonus site. Sounds evil.

Baalz April 7th, 2009 05:10 PM

Re: Did you know that? (Dominions trivia)
 
Well, in practice generally 1 gem with no hammer is better than no gems with a hammer by the point of the game you're putting up forge of the ancients, etc.

Rysith April 9th, 2009 01:41 AM

Re: Did you know that? (Dominions trivia)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Baalz (Post 684488)
Well, in practice generally 1 gem with no hammer is better than no gems with a hammer by the point of the game you're putting up forge of the ancients, etc.

The point isn't so much that you can get free items, but that it's possible to exceed the 80% cost reduction cap, which I had previously thought was a hard limit. As I mentioned, with the same set of bonuses they forge 40-gem items for 6.

I suspect that the key is pushing the bonus to 80% before the site bonus is factored in, and then the site bonus ends up pushing it beyond 80% reduction (and truncating, so items costing fractional gems are free).

MaxWilson April 14th, 2009 01:10 AM

Re: Did you know that? (Dominions trivia)
 
I've never heard of an "80% cost reduction cap" (except in GURPS) before. The algorithm is pretty simple: if there's Forge of the Ancients up, halve cost and round down. Then apply your forge bonus and round down again. And yes, you can forge cheap items for free with a large enough bonus, although in practice it's probably better to forge an expensive item for really cheap.

-Max

Zeldor May 8th, 2009 04:44 PM

Re: Did you know that? (Dominions trivia)
 
Now you can see that fighting in void has its penalties:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y26/Zeldor/void.jpg

chrispedersen May 8th, 2009 06:40 PM

Re: Did you know that? (Dominions trivia)
 
Interesting.. how did you get that.. I don't think R. suffers that.

Aezeal May 8th, 2009 08:24 PM

Re: Did you know that? (Dominions trivia)
 
but void beings don't get it I guess?

Zeldor May 9th, 2009 02:19 AM

Re: Did you know that? (Dominions trivia)
 
Battle for guy Lost in time and space.

darloth May 12th, 2009 03:45 PM

Re: Did you know that? (Dominions trivia)
 
Fire Plate (at least in CBM) adds 2 to morale but never mentions that in its description.

I certainly didn't. Sorry if it's been mentioned already.

Illuminated One May 12th, 2009 03:52 PM

Re: Did you know that? (Dominions trivia)
 
The R'lyeh Visitor hero can fly from one water province to another. Even when sea of ice is up.


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