Re: Finnish OOB 6.0
 

Modify

Units 335,336,348: XA-361 AMOS

Availability start: 6/2013

http://www.patriahagglunds.fi/
"Patria Hägglunds has delivered the first AMOS FIN series mortar systems and the training systems to FDF. The Conscript training with the AMOS systems commences in Spring 2013. The remaining series will be delivered by the end of 2013."

Re: Finnish OOB 6.0
 

Finally, a small wish:

As troops in other OOBs have been combed thru and movement points checked, I believe Finnish Sissi (Reconnaissance & saboteur) troops should be changed as well. Wikipedia has actually a good article on Sissi troops http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sissi_%...ht_infantry%29 and I believe these units should be reflected better in the game.

Quoting the article: "Sissi troops are un-motorized and are not equipped with heavy weapons or equipment, their uniforms and weaponry are almost identical with regular infantry issue. Distinctive personal equipment used by Sissi are Savotta "Para Jäger" backpacks used because of extended hikes,[5] camouflage paint and personal camouflage nets. Sissi units have fewer crew served weapons and more sniper rifles than regular infantry."

My main grudges are the movement points and AT weaponry. Sissi troops are lightly equipped (they don't even use a helmet) and try to be faster and harder to spot than their targets.
http://www.puolustusvoimat.fi/wcm/ef...d6bbb81d585751

1. Movement points: bump up that one point from 6 to 7 just like Swedish reconnaissance patrol has.

2. Drop that Apilas. It's big, heavy and cumbersome, I doubt anyone is carrying that. I don't believe AAMG is either used in Sissi troops. Maybe replace it with 66 KES 88 (M72 LAW), 2 / squad.

3. Mines, satchel charges. Claymore mines, off-route mines.
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...route_mine.jpg

There's a Finnish military newspaper "Ruotuväki" article, in Finnish: Ghosts in the forest

"Partioon kuuluu kaksi sissiä, alikersantti Simo Rautiainen ja lääkintämies Joeli Pennanen. Aseistuksenaan heillä on rynnäkkökivääreiden lisäksi kevyt kylkimiina ja raskas viuhkapanos. Partio toimii osana ryhmää ja heidän tehtävänsä on tuhota tiellä liikkuvat ajoneuvot."

In this patrol there are two Sissis, corporal Simo Rautiainen and medic Joeli Pennanen. As their weaponry they have in addition to assault rifles an off-route mine and a heavy claymore mine. This patrol is part of the section and their mission is to destroy vehicles using the road nearby.

So pretty please, could you bump the movement to 7, drop that apilas and add mines and satchel charges instead?

Re: Finnish OOB 6.0
 

I'll take a look at it

Don

Re: Finnish OOB 6.0
 

Not sure if this is the right thread, but the 7.0 version seems to be missing the Pasi series APCs (e.g. XA-185). I have a feel that it's missing some other stuff too that used to be there, but is not on this version. Thanks for the great work anyway!

Re: Finnish OOB 6.0
 

See units 48-52, and a few others (enter the search term "Pasi" in Mobhack's Unit page). Formations 115, 285, etc available 1984-2020, search for "MRV" or "RDF" in Mobhack on the formation page.

Andy

Re: Finnish OOB 6.0
 

They have been in every version of the OOB sice Windows Ver 1 and they are still there in this version so if you are missing them you might want to check you aren't using someone elses custom OOB's

The PaSi 203 with the 25mm AC was removed as it was shown to be not produced but the rest are there as well as the PaSi with the ATGM was added this last release

Searching for Units of class 217 MRV APC
048 - XA-180 PaSi - Available 08/084 to 12/085
049 - XA-180 PaSi - Available 01/085 to 12/100
050 - XA-185 PaSi - Available 01/094 to 12/120
051 - XA-203 PaSi - Available 01/102 to 12/120
052 - XA-203 PaSi AT - Available 01/102 to 12/120
054 - AMV Patria APC - Available 01/104 to 12/120
055 - AMV Patria APC - Available 01/104 to 12/120


6 formations found using UC 217
115 MRV APC Platoon - Available: 08/84-12/120
285 MRV Inf Company - Available: 08/84-12/120
286 MRV Inf Platoon - Available: 08/84-12/120
287 MRV Support Pl - Available: 08/84-12/120
295 RDF Jaeger Coy - Available: 01/103-12/120
296 RDF Jaeger Plt - Available: 01/103-12/120


Don