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So it happens, the hour feared and half-awaited has come. The eagle kings show their true face and attack peaceful Marverni.

They want to drown the world in cold and lightning and let the remainder get stomped by woolly elephants. Is this the world you want to live in?

The druids have gathered and will now try to keep the world in balance, yet still the hells of Abysia are still hot. Will there ever be peace?

Re: FruitBat - EA game for new players
 

The internet in my apartment is dead =(, and won't be restored until Wednesday probably. I'd like to ask for an extension.

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ok, is 24h enough? That would make thursday 17h GMT.

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My internet is working again, I'd like to thank everyone for their flexibility.

Ulmish Updates
 

I've beaten myself...had a GOOD chance to kill the TC pretender and instead split my forces. I had a mage set to cast Flaming Arrows and thought it would be good enough, but for whatever reason he did not.

Had I erred on the side of caution and thrown in my Pretender it would have been a much different outcome. Instead of losing 240 of 290 troops plus many leaders (and magic items) I would have killed his Pretender and many troops; they were trying to Break Siege so an Ulmish victory would have been total.

And oh, the luck! I just recieved a free Fortress via Random Event! In a Province deep in TC territory that I had raided by air...enjoy it, Donny! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif

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What's wrong in the Caelum headquaters? They send an army consisting of almost 30 eagle kings and the same number of Mammoths in our direction just to return to their fortress a turn after?

The druids of Marverni didn't plan to go to war against the Eagle Kings of Caelum. Our offer of peace is still stands!

Re: Ulmish Updates
 

I'm away until sunday night. I just submitted my turn, but I would like to ask for a possible delay after this one so I can submit the next one in time.

If somebody is sending their turn not before Saturday, there will be no problem. Thanks.

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Ouch. Another defeat for me against tien-chi. I failed to take a fortress due to the fact that the idiotic AI considered that not using gems to cast a 200 fatigue spell is a good idea, and because the might of your units overpowers my maenads by far.

Well, I did mostly lose maenads, it's not a big loss.

Re: Ulmish Updates
 

Have played my current turn, but will be out of town until Sunday, and would appreciate a delay on the NEXT turn until then.

The game is getting ugly, now that it's down to the last few players.

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yes, no problem. I will delay it.

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next turn is delayed by 36 hours to give everyone enough time to send it in.

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Thanks for the pause, my turn is sent.

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After a fruitless siege Caelum's army decided to move. Meanwhile the druids had not been idle and gathered forces to meet this army led by about thirty eagle kings.

The question is now, where and when will this encounter take place? Who will be victorious?

Meanwhile the raiding and small skirmishes will continue.

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I've been sending a few messages to Tien'chi. I expect an answer !

Motion to end game...
 

Marverni will be the winner. In almost all categories (provinces, income, gem income, Dominion) he has as much as the rest of us combined. And most especially Research...how many Level 9 Schools does he have at this time?

The next closest rival, T'ien Ch'i, is fighting two foes and just lost a major battle (and his prophet). Pangea's army, the largest, is composed primarily of maenads and will not last against Marverni; he can barely make headway against TC.

I'm happy to continue playing (given my recent victory against TC http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif) but the winner is very obvious at this time.

Re: Motion to end game...
 

T'ien Chi is not fighting 2 foes, unless Marveni attacked him already.

Your analysis therefore fails.

Edit :
But, if you wish to abandon ship, please do so. Or, make out a peace treaty with Tien'chi and let us, all three, attack Marveni. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

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Is Caelum still actively playing? It seems like not. It's really a pity if he through the towel. I was disappointed that he did not do his move and get a very easy victory (battle, decisive maybe, not the war!).

I would not underestimate the pans, or T'ien Ch'i, well I do not, I do not think that the game is over yet. And isn't it about seeing those end game moves really played out even if you are on the receiving end?

How many army of gold/lead, against fog warriors, enslave communions, really outfitted eaters of armies (elemental kings, arch devils, tartarians...) did you see in action yet? I, none, before this game. So, however this game ends, let's have some real action going.

Although it's a hell of a work to move 60+ commanders + gems around.

Re: Motion to end game...
 

The game is far from being over.

We had a little, hum, manly talk with Tien'chi but nothing major was lost on either side. I'd says that both of us are nearly unharmed from this clash. That clash is my fault alone though, I should have negotiated with words rather than maenads, but Tien'chi retaliated and showed me his worth.

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Hum and about Caelum. He's been playing slowly in another game I'm playing with him too. He should still here, but he seems to have a rather complicated schedule...

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It has been finals week for me, so I've been very busy with that, which is why my playing here and Primea has been weird. (Although I didn't realize I had staled, I'm very sorry to everyone here).

I've been losing this war with Marveni for some time, but I knew I either had to attack or wait until he had a lot of high-end stuff. I made a couple of mistakes, though. I didn't counter his Bane Lords aggressively enough; Dust to Dust never seemed to work as well as I hoped, but I could've sent more Harabi into it, and some animists for Maggots, but I waited too long and put too much stock in a pointless siege to try to bring about a large battle. They might've just gotten mind hunted anyway, Marveni certainly made the most of its astral advantage. (Mental note: Play a good astral nation next game.) Now Marveni has Master Enslave, something I have no true counter for. I have to give credit to Marveni for his Fabian tactics, as he avoided my wind guide/flaming arrows/mist warriors/thunderstrike army of doom until he was good and ready.

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Go ahead and set me AI. As much as I'd like to fight to the bitter end, my staling on recent turns shows I've had a hard time keeping in the game.

Hope someone has master enslave counters.

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Yup, antimagic should work fine with high-resistance units. Also battlewide spells work too (if you kill everything it doesn't matter who control them). Finally sending air queens when your opponents expects maenads works fine too.

By the way, I've started a war with Marveni. Anyone wanting to join me can do so, but it would seem that Tien'chi and Ulm fight to the end... so I'll be alone for a while.

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ComTrav,

can you submit a turn where you go AI? Or should I do it? It wold be a lot easier if you can.

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Ok...

Today I learned that gifts from heaven requires no MR check. There is just no way that your druids got over 26 MR twice when casting a spell three times (actually since you barely had enough skills to cast it your chance of bypassing it was less than 1%). And the "penalty" of precision is of course a joke if you equip properly your mages (which you did). Ouch. That spell is... well any druid can spam it. This is going to be much more difficult than I thought. My mistake though, I shouldn't have stayed with the air queen. By losing her though I learned something much more useful than what she was worth though.

Ulm\'s Concession
 

Klaus, the FrostFather, failed to swing his sword. My bad...I did not realize that if he had the Boots of the Behemoth he would do NOTHING but trample. So Ember remained unused.

In his final fight vs. an Ice Devil I scripted
1. Summon Earthpower
2. Ironskin
3. Quicken Self

but instead got
1. Summon Earthpower
2. Ironskin
3. Invulnerability

I had just researched the necesary level for Invulnerability this turn or would have scripted that...but still! One would think it would have replaced Ironskin, NOT Quicken Self! Guess the AI knew I wasn't going to be swinging that lovely sword...

At least the Ice Devil that beat me had no empty slots so my Goodies were lost!

It's been fun! Many lessons learned the hard way. Donny played a good game and took me down. I will go AI this turn.

After my summer vacation, Klaus WILL ride again! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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Waouh. Those few turns must have been amazing fights. I wish I could see them.

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luck helps - a bit - against the meteorites.
If you can trample your foe, you do trample, and nothing else. Quickness is actually good for tramplers since it increases action points.

I was afraid the air queen would join the mass slaughter at hesperia, but fortunately she did stay put.

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Damned. The air queen got stolen.

Me <- sad.

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Stolen?
It was summoned with very high efforts.

It cost at least a hundred gems! But you will see her again soon, I promise!

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A hundred gem ? You wished her away O.o ?

Well no matter. Here is another reason why maenads shouldn't be used that much in a battle :

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/7...lossqq8.th.jpg

Re: Ulm\'s Concession
 

not without buffing, at least, I guess, I shuldn't say that, though ...

No, not wishing but heavy alchemy.

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Yeah, well, buffing's on the way. I concentrated on spell that could take care of, let's say, bane lord with aegis shields first, and not army buffs.

Currently I am behind in research for army buffs, but I'll have good buffs soon enough.

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good to know that MR in the early 20s is too low.

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(You had 16 MR actually. 20 should be ok). Hum disregard that... the first thug had 16, this one had 20...

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I think you were really lucky in this particular instance that the first charm went through. I think you had no penetration gear on?

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Nope, didn't have any penetration gear.

But, I beg to differ, because it's not the charm that worked. Charm keeps all gear and abilities. Meaning that the aegis shield would currently be mine, the bane lord would still be a commander, which, it isn't (check the replay, the bane lord becomes a "normal" unit).

It's the 2nd or 3rd enslave mind that worked. Compared to charm, enslave mind is vastly superior in term of range and precision, but the the downside is that the unit becomes a regular chaff.

According to the manual (page 86 and page 5) I had 95% chance of failing though.

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PS : I don't mind discussing any battle I make, it's a newbie game after all, we're all here to learn. And it'll be much more fun if we share our experiences, because fighting experienced people is funnier than crushing noobs (or being crushed like a noob).

Re: Ulm\'s Concession
 

sorry, of course it was enslave mind, but anyways you were lucky! I tried to mind hunt Caelum's bane lord with some penetration several turns and always failed.

But my real army is still cleaning up Caelum, and that army has penetration gear.

The real place for things like bane lords is to clean the enemy's rear and not too close to hostile mages.

In retrospect, I was always afraid that Caelum would send his eagle kings to raid my lands when I still fought Abysia, but he didn't. Since then I recruited a hell load of druids to respond. I think he missed on the biggest strength of Caelum, mobility.

Re: Ulm\'s Concession
 

Mind hunt won't work against me though. Well, some of your mage already was feebleminded so I guess you already know.

Re: Ulm\'s Concession
 

so the new patch is out right when I'm sending out the first tartarian, ever, what a blow into my face!

The monster boar I sent to Caelum's home castle now decided to siege me there, haha!

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Woah I think that was the shortest battle ever !

Why the hell did you send a lone equiped mage against a 1000+ army ? A scout would have been enough to see the my troops.

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The lore of magic is a complicated matter and the outcome is not always as desired.

In other words, I clicked the wrong province, I guess.

Did this stop an attack of yours, btw?

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Actually, no.

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I hate when my spellcasters IGNORE my script.

I would have taken much less losses and could have turned the tide if mist form was cast instead of that stupid arrow fend spell. Not that with all that buffing of yours I could have won easily though...

Well done anyway.

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not if my script - master enslave - would have gone off instead of will of the fates!


Sorry guys, I had to delay the server for a day, life is really stressy at the moment.

What do you think about declaring the game finished or do you think you can still beat me?

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argh! I delayed hosting and then missed it by ten minutes! I'm really sorry about that.

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There is about nothing I can do to stop the marvenian army now, the fire elemental was my last chance.

I received a message from tien'chi saying that he's not strong enough either, and I am nearly beaten.

If that's ok for both of you I think the winner is clear. If not I'll go on.

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It wouldn't have mattered much if you had, I could send in enough druids in like 2-3 turns at the most to replace the losses. And my tartarians are on the way.

I'd really see the cool guys in action, I just wished for a Seraph the last turn, but submitting turns is getting difficult.

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I got a message from T'en Ch'i that they also accept defeat. I take the liberty to declare the game finished with Marverni the winner.

I'll attach my last turn file.