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Provinces with crown icon are worth Victory Points. This doesn't matter all with default victory conditions.

Btw, C'tis would like to buy a few Owl Quills in the first year. Contact me if you're willing to forge them.

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Cool, thanks.

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It seems Sauromatia is having a pretty rough start. Were you hit by a bad event?

I was wondering if anyone would be interested in comparing notes, at this point, in the interest of all of us learning something (since it's a noob game)? I'm only talking about public information which can be gleaned from the statistics screens, not giving anything away.

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Sure :) Conclusions i see from the scores so far:
* Sauromatia got hit by a barbarian attack or something like that on first turn. Propably means high misfortune scales and a lot of bad luck
* C'tis (me), Yomi and Helheim have awake pretenders. If others also have awake pretenders, they propably don't have magic as only us 2 researched on the first turn.
(Both mine and Helheim's gods are fighting ones, as can be seen in Hall of Fame).
* After turn 2, everyone except me and Sauromatia took 1 province. Only I took 2. This and the research chart suggests Yomi's pretender is not a fighting one, at least without researching spells or forging equipment.
* Hall of Fame shows I've got the mercs. Someone propably should have bidded higher ;)
* Helheim has high dominion score and awake pretender. Pity their neighbours ;)
* Ulm and Mictlan took above average losses attacking last turn.
* Ulm and Fomoria were overtaxing/patrolling first turn.
* Ermor has good scales (high income)

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Very insightful and probably 100% accurate. Thanks for the analysis. That is helpful!

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Thanks. That's some good stuff. I've reached most of those conclusions myself, as well, although I disagree with some:

I'd say that besides Ulm and Fomoria, Helheim and Yomi were also overtaxing/patrolling first turn. Since Ermor has a very high stable income, I'm guessing he has at least +3 order, and probably production and growth scales, as well.

I agree that C'tis and Yomi must have awake pretenders. Furthermore, since C'tis took 2 provinces on turn 3, I'm guessing he has a combat pretender (that's not certain, though, and if he does, it's likely that it's still too vulnerable for him to risk it on a blind attack). Furthermore, going by the dominion increases, I thnk that Ermor, Helheim, Hinnom and possibly Ulm, have awake pretenders. I'd like to hear your reasoning for saying Helheim, though.

Looking at Ulm's available researchers, I think that he has 3 magic scales. Doing the same with Sauromatia and Hinnom, I'm thinking 0 magic scales for them (might be wrong about Hinnom).

I had some ideas about Yomi's pretender, based on the research, but I'm not sure how research bonuses from magic paths work. Is it just +1 research for each point in any path, or what?

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About research: Yes, AFAIK it's base value (based on unit type) + 1 per each magic path point.
Helheim's god is in Hall of Fame - that's as obvious hint as it gets :)
Magic +3 for Ulm sounds risky, as their troops have low MR. Could be a weakness if it's true.

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Ha! I missed that, but yeah, that's a good hint. :)

Actually, since any magic path gives +1 research, it's more likely that they only have 1 magic scale, since that would give them a 50% chance of getting the 8 research they currently have, on the best researcher they can recruit. I guess my other magic scales notes should be taken with a grain of salt. :)

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Me thinks Szumo is not so new to this game. Also Szumo has just successfully attacked my capital with his pretender. Surprise attack while we were negotiating a trade (I offered to forge him some owl quils).

It is a Manticore with A6. I'm probably going down, but I'm going to remain in the game as long as possible. Before I go down, I will give all the gems and gold I have saved to the person who makes his life the most miserable.

I am in province 74. He has 92 and 82 with capital most likely in 99.

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I've finished 5 dom3 multiplayer games some years ago, none of them with current generation of CBM, then had a long break playing. Hardly makes me a veteran - and I did ask for mattyburn7 for definition of inexpierenced MP player, which i believe i fit.

I understand you're frustrated - I wasn't happy when i found out there are just 2 provinces between our capitals, as I would rather conquer more neutral provinces before starting an early war which is a big risk, but we're simply too close.

I do not apprieciate your attempt to damage my reputation by implying that I somehow attacked you dishonourably. You contacted me asking what i was willing to offer for the owl quills, i replied, and that's all - and it happened _before we even met_! After we met, i decided further talks were pointless. I did not in any way promise, suggest or imply that I would not attack you.

You have every right to fight back as hard as you can, including asking for help, offering intel/gems/whatever, but right now your pleas come off a bit like desperate whining :), while your situation is not IMO desperate. I'd suggest you try to keep your dignity.

And to the rest: C'tis is willing to forge friendly relationships with other of it's neighbours (assuming they're not that close ;) ), however anyone helping Fomoria will be dealt with harshly :)