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Ragnarok September 2nd, 2004 12:12 PM

Re: PBW status
 
Everything is loading perfectly fine for me here.

Roanon September 2nd, 2004 02:02 PM

Re: PBW status
 
No problems here too. I guess it is a bad connection.

Alneyan September 2nd, 2004 02:37 PM

Re: PBW status
 
I thought so. Does PBW use any kind of special port? There has been no changes to software, so the problem doesn't come from there. However, the router might have come alive again, and my ISP is no longer the same (my ISP is Cegetel, in case a "wide" ban has been set up over this domain).

Roanon September 2nd, 2004 03:37 PM

Re: PBW status
 
Do you use seiv.pbw.cc or are your trying to access by IP adress, maybe using an outdated one? If you try to access the graphic Version, does the text Version work probably?

Alneyan September 2nd, 2004 03:46 PM

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I use seiv.pbw.cc. Using the IP does not work either. I am using the text Version, and cannot access the graphical Version.

Pinging PBW brings a timeout as well, whereas pinging another site works fine (with a response time under 200 ms).

Roanon September 2nd, 2004 05:35 PM

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Veeeerrrryyyy strange. Pinging should work for sure. Maybe your ISP does not like .cc? Can you reach www.enic.cc? You didn't try www.seiv.pbw.cc by accident, or your browser tried to "help" by inserting www.?

Alneyan September 2nd, 2004 06:14 PM

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The URL is correct, and there was no www inserted (either by mistake or because of a "friendly" browser). The link you gave has the same symptom as PBW; however, www.trillian.cc works fine. Trillian may be hosted on another "physical" domain though.

In both cases, Firefox manages to connect and tells me to wait while it waits for the server. The page is then loaded for ten minutes or so, before Firefox stops without giving any kind of error message.

I guess it is something about my ISP and this domain; hopefully a temporary glitch rather than a more annoying problem.

geoschmo September 2nd, 2004 09:18 PM

Re: PBW status
 
Alneayn, have you tried it with anowther browser? Do you have IE on that computer? Have you tried the text as well as the graphic UI? It may be a browser issue instead of any kind of ISP thing.

geoschmo September 2nd, 2004 09:25 PM

Re: PBW status
 
Ok, auto turns are back on.

Alneyan September 3rd, 2004 05:07 AM

Re: PBW status
 
My browser did not change, and worked fine under both my previous DSL ISP, and my backup modem. IE does not work either , and Navigator results in the same problem as my trusted Firefox. I do not have any direct link to the graphic Version, and so cannot try this one (I use the text-based Version).

Interestingly, removing my cookies enabled me to get an error message when attempting to reach my game list (logically enough; but PBW worked there). Likewise, the other computer (that has never been touched by PBW), connects to PBW without a glitch.

How are you supposed to send your turn by email? I have tried just attaching the plr file to the mail as a reply, but it doesn't seem to work. Or has this feature been the cause for PBW downfalls, and is disabled because of this?

Ruatha September 3rd, 2004 07:00 AM

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The send mail function has been disable a loong time, have you tried using the SE4 Companion?

Alneyan September 3rd, 2004 07:46 AM

Re: PBW status
 
The Companion does not seem to be able to connect to PBW either (the programme hangs up while attempting to connect to PBW).

Other possible problems: I am using Windows XP (*Sigh*), but its firewall has been disabled, destroyed, slaughtered, desactivated, and finally beaten to death before being totemised. No other firewall is present on the host computer. All services for my shared connection are also enabled, as XP is known to be a jester and randomly disables these useless things (such as HTTP or mail; who needs these?) when it strikes its fancy.

Edit: Now it works! I do not know why, but it works! *Rushes to upload some turns*

geoschmo September 10th, 2004 04:19 PM

Re: PBW status
 
Taking the server down for a few hours. Should be back up tonight. Auto turns will be off when it comes back up so if you have a turn due in the mean time it won't run without you.

Geoschmo

Fyron September 10th, 2004 04:22 PM

Re: PBW status
 
Ack. I was just about to upload a plr file. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Hippocrates September 10th, 2004 04:23 PM

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Ooooooooh, how evil - went down just as I was hitting the "submit" button http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

Thanks for the update, and the continued maintenance.

-Hippo

Roanon September 10th, 2004 04:25 PM

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Grr - 5 mins before deadline, and I was waiting for the turn do to it before I have to leave tomorrow http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif And as there are a few non-submitters, and no autoturns, I guess I can kiss goodbye the next turn http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

geoschmo September 10th, 2004 05:52 PM

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Quote:

Roanon said:
Grr - 5 mins before deadline, and I was waiting for the turn do to it before I have to leave tomorrow http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif And as there are a few non-submitters, and no autoturns, I guess I can kiss goodbye the next turn http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

Well, how long will you be gone? No chance of you getting back before the next turn runs? Which game? Perhaps we can work something out with the game owner?

Alneyan September 10th, 2004 06:26 PM

Re: PBW status
 
Since I am not sure if Roanon will be able to respond to this thread before leaving, I will answer your more general Queries.

The game in question is NGC4, currently hosted by Tesco (the previous host was Ruatha, but will be away in the weeks to come). I do not know how long he will be gone however, and so cannot say how long ALPU would be needed (if it is needed).

Roanon September 10th, 2004 06:36 PM

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I'll be unavailable tomorrow noon, i.e. about 12 hours from now, on vaccation for 2 weeks, will be able to organize internet access there but not before tuesday if all goes well, wednesday if it doesn't work as expected. Would be great if I could sumit at least an emergency turn before leaving, otherwise I'll have to ask tesco for ALPU (and hope he will grant it), or miss the turn that will be due tuesday.

geoschmo September 10th, 2004 08:06 PM

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Ok, server is up. I'm gonna watch things for a few minutes and makes sure everything is working right.

Roanon, I understand what's going on, the problem is with auto turns off there won't be a turn for you to play anytime soon, but if you are already gone when auto turns are back on you'll miss the next turn.

I will touch base with Tesco before I turn auto turns back on. What's the latest you could be available to do a turn tonight or tommorow? Either he'd need to run a turn manually for that, I'd need to turn auto turns back on before you go, or possibly he could put your game on ALPU.

Or I could do a turn or two for you if you need a temporary replacment player.

Geoschmo

Roanon September 10th, 2004 08:27 PM

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I'll be gone in about 11 hours. Problem with manual processing is that for fairness reasons, opportunity to submit a turn should be given to the 4 still missing players, who could have tried submitting the turn in the Last 6 mins remaining before deadline when the server was switched off. At least Hippocrates was interrupted in the middle of uploading, as already posted. Really bad bad timing - just 10 mins later and everything would have been fine. Bad luck.

NGC is a 20 player game with roughly 250 systems, about half of the players remaining and I own my share of the map plus 1 or 2 systems. Really not the game for a replacement player, he would need hours just to find through.

I guess the turn will be run manually a few seconds after I will have left, counting on my bad luck. If I can't download a copy before leaving so I can do an emergency turn on the weekend and try to get a turn or email into pbw somehow on monday, I will have no chance. I'll email Tesco depending on what will have happend before I leave, switching the game to ALPU for next turn might be an option that could save me.

Too bad, it was planned ahead to work with optimal timimg, now it has turned into maximum disaster timing just because of 6 minutes...

tesco samoa September 11th, 2004 12:20 AM

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hey you have it uploaded http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

geoschmo September 11th, 2004 12:45 AM

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Quote:

tesco samoa said:
hey you have it uploaded http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

No, it's not this turn he's concerned about. It's the next turn after this one runs. It would have already run and he could have done his next turn, except for me taking the server down this afternoon, and turning off auto turns when I brought it back up.

teal September 11th, 2004 02:45 AM

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Thanks for waiting everyone! I tried to upload for NGC4 during the Last six minutes before deadline and of course the server was down. I'm very glad you didn't run the turn without me!

Also, I think that we should not play without Roanon as he is a vital player and very commited to this game in general. It doesn't seem right to mess up his plans due to a weird outage like this.

Teal

Roanon September 11th, 2004 06:26 AM

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As suspected, I have to leave now and cannot even grab the latest results, as the turn still has not run. This means I will not be able to do anything for NGC4 for a few days. Have sent an email to Tesco, I hope he will let me catch up - I need to do at least an emergency turn with a few adjustments, I haven't prepared for this disaster as I couldn't foresee this.

Maintenance downtime seems to become more frequent now - how about a regular schedule, Geo? This way, everything would be less turbulent, autoturns could be switched back a few hours after downtime if it is announced like 24 hours ago, I think.

tesco samoa September 11th, 2004 08:36 AM

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well if it is RTV Detrain game. It ran on the 10th. And is scheduled to run on the 12th.

geoschmo September 11th, 2004 09:47 AM

Re: PBW status
 
Unfortunatly scheduling downtime is difficult for me. I don't always know in advance when I will have time to do what I have to do. On the bright side most of the recent downtime has been leading up to what I was finally able to accomplish yesterday. The primary server is offline and we are running on the backup server. I will be shipping the primary to Tesco now and the only scheduled downtime in the foreseeable future will be when we bring the primary back Online and get it up to date. That probably won't be for a couple weeks. I'll try to give you more advanced warning though.

geoschmo September 12th, 2004 10:08 AM

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Auto turns are now back on.

Renegade 13 September 12th, 2004 09:37 PM

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So sorry Roanan, and all other NGC4 players...I would have had my turn uploaded long ago, but my internet suddenly decided to die for the past 3 or 4 days. I hate being the Last to upload, and causing (in part) the problem with Roanan. Hopefully it can be resolved, and he can get his turns in when needed.

Alneyan September 15th, 2004 10:46 AM

Re: PBW status
 
Looks like the "PBW local downfall" problem has come back to haunt me. Is anybody willing to take care of uploading a few turns for me? Not many, just the games screaming for a turn to be uploaded. I trust the problem will resolve itself as previously, but I cannot say for sure. Thanks!

geoschmo September 15th, 2004 11:07 AM

Re: PBW status
 
Alneyan, I can upload them if you email them to me.

Geoschmo

Alneyan September 15th, 2004 11:14 AM

Re: PBW status
 
I am dumb; hasn't the email turn feature been enabled a few days ago? I will attempt to upload turns this way, though I would need a confirmation of whether the turn has actually been uploaded.

Edit: Yes, it does work, and simply takes a bit more time. So please disregard my message above. However, I would like if someone could nag me when pressing matters are brought up in the NGC5 forum. If needed, I will also have to figure out a way of accessing Game Admin options while PBW is unavailable for me.

geoschmo September 15th, 2004 11:44 AM

Re: PBW status
 
Your turn was received and processed. The turn ran sucsesfully about five minutes ago.

You should receive a confirmation email from PBW every time you send in a turn that way, either a "turn processed" or "turn did not process" email. So even if the turn doesn't run right away you should be able to tell that your turn was received. Although it probably takes a few minutes to work through the system and back to your email box.

EDIT: And now I see you edited your post to say that you figured that out already. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Joachim September 21st, 2004 01:22 AM

Re: PBW status
 
AAAArrrghhh I cant undo a turn, keep getting a long error log.

It is in My KOTH game with Asmala.

error message:
Error: 500
Location: /GamePlayer
Internal Servlet Error:

java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Null filename to Game.load?
at cc.dpf.pbw.seiv.Game.load(Game.java:508)
at cc.dpf.pbw.servlet.seiv.GamePlayer.processRequest( GamePlayer.java:276)
at cc.dpf.pbw.servlet.seiv.GamePlayer.doGet(GamePlaye r.java:339)
at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet .java:740)
at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet .java:853)
at org.apache.tomcat.core.ServletWrapper.doService(Se rvletWrapper.java:405)
at org.apache.tomcat.core.Handler.service(Handler.jav a:287)
at org.apache.tomcat.core.ServletWrapper.service(Serv letWrapper.java:372)
at org.apache.tomcat.core.ContextManager.internalServ ice(ContextManager.java:797)
at org.apache.tomcat.core.ContextManager.service(Cont extManager.java:743)
at org.apache.tomcat.service.connector.Ajp13Connectio nHandler.processConnection(Ajp13ConnectionHandler. java:160)
at org.apache.tomcat.service.TcpWorkerThread.runIt(Po olTcpEndpoint.java:416)
at org.apache.tomcat.util.ThreadPool$ControlRunnable. run(ThreadPool.java:501)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:484)

Fyron September 21st, 2004 01:33 AM

Re: PBW status
 
Are you using a browser other than Internet Exploder? PBW was sadly not developed with anything else in mind... several functions do not work in non-IE browsers. They are mostly the ones associated with joining/leaving games.

Joachim September 21st, 2004 01:35 AM

Re: PBW status
 
Quote:

Imperator Fyron said:
Are you using a browser other than Internet Exploder? PBW was sadly not developed with anything else in mind... several functions do not work in non-IE browsers. They are mostly the ones associated with joining/leaving games.

Firefox, so sort of using IE... COuld have sworn I'd undone tunrs in this browser before.

Fyron September 21st, 2004 01:36 AM

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Quote:

Joachim said:
Firefox, so sort of using IE... COuld have sworn I'd undone tunrs in this browser before.

Erm... Firefox and IE use completely different HTML rendering engines and have completely separate code bases. Load up IE and see if that works.

Joachim September 21st, 2004 01:56 AM

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Quote:

Imperator Fyron said:
Quote:

Joachim said:
Firefox, so sort of using IE... COuld have sworn I'd undone tunrs in this browser before.

Erm... Firefox and IE use completely different HTML rendering engines and have completely separate code bases. Load up IE and see if that works.

Hooray, Three Cheers for Fyron (and a medal [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/icon44.gif[/img] ) - it worked in IE. Thank you. It was one of those things you think about in the turn a bit later and then wonder - did I actually do it - then you go Oh Crap what if I didn't.....

Roanon September 21st, 2004 09:31 AM

Re: PBW status
 
It also will work in standard browsers if you use the text Version. The graphic Version is only programmed for the non-standard conforming browser IE.

AMF September 21st, 2004 05:21 PM

Re: PBW status
 
Do you mean the graphic side of PBW? I always use Opera when I log on to PBW, and I always use the graphics Version, it works fine for me.

Quote:

Roanon said:
It also will work in standard browsers if you use the text Version. The graphic Version is only programmed for the non-standard conforming browser IE.


Roanon September 21st, 2004 07:40 PM

Re: PBW status
 
Works fine for me also, using Mozialla - most of the time. But not always, undoing a turn does only work with IE or when using Mozilla only in text mode, for example.

Kana October 1st, 2004 12:17 PM

Re: PBW status
 
PBW appears to be down....

Kana

Roanon October 1st, 2004 12:24 PM

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Yep, seems to be down

geoschmo October 1st, 2004 01:48 PM

Re: PBW status
 
Yeah, I see there's a problem. May not be able to do anything till I get home this evening though.

Ragnarok-X October 1st, 2004 04:46 PM

Re: PBW status
 
No problem http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Colonel October 1st, 2004 05:39 PM

Re: PBW status
 
Funny when everI see I can't get on pbw I always seem to be a bit worried, even though I know its most likely nothing

tesco samoa October 1st, 2004 05:50 PM

Re: PBW status
 
Geo. I will not be able to look either... For at least 8 hours from this post...

Caduceus October 1st, 2004 11:33 PM

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Still down 10:30 PM EST.

Wildcard

geoschmo October 1st, 2004 11:38 PM

Re: PBW status
 
Looks like it working ok now.

Colonel October 1st, 2004 11:39 PM

Re: PBW status
 
YAY ITS FIXED YAY, been wondering around for awhile waiting Good Job


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