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Atreidi June 21st, 2008 05:06 PM

What other games complement your Dominions 3?
 
What Other games do you play in your Dominions' spare time?

PvK June 21st, 2008 05:35 PM

Re: What other games complement your Dominions 3?
 
Recently I've been trying various games for variety, but nothing to write home about.

In the past, I've shared the spotlight with Myth (The Fallen Lords, Soulblighter), Space Empires IV, Combat Mission, ADOM, King of Dragon Pass, Dwarf Fortress, and some others.

Gandalf Parker June 21st, 2008 05:47 PM

Re: What other games complement your Dominions 3?
 
Rising Star
Space Empires IV
Master of Magic
Stars!
King of Dragon Pass
Diablo II
Ultima Online (but only on the free player-made servers)

das123 June 21st, 2008 05:58 PM

Re: What other games complement your Dominions 3?
 
Age of Wonders
Advanced Tactics
Galactic Civilisation II
Sins of a Solar Empire
and for online fun...
Call of Duty 4

GP, noticed that you listed Stars!. My favourite game for many years in the mid 90's. Do you still play it? It's a shame the developer couldn't complete the next version. Apparently it was all but complete and then he had a falling out with the publisher.

Endoperez June 21st, 2008 06:00 PM

Re: What other games complement your Dominions 3?
 
I don't play it much, but I also happen to own King of Dragon Pass. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif


Roguelikes (Crawl, DwarfFortress atm) and some old rpgs take most of my time. I'm playing an old Dragon Warrior game on PS1, currently. It's a good timewaster.

Skirmisher June 21st, 2008 07:45 PM

Current other active game software
 

Jagged Alliance 2 Urban Chaos
Restricted Area
Space Empires IV Deluxe 1.95
WinSPMBT 4.0

Jagdpanther June 21st, 2008 08:17 PM

Re: Current other active game software
 
Neverwinter Nights (Diamond Release) -- I am new to this.
Combat Mission: Afrika Korps and Barbarossa to Berlin
(I am STILL waiting for Combat Mission Campaigns.)
(I have Shock Force but like the older games better.)

Darkwind June 21st, 2008 08:19 PM

Re: Current other active game software
 
I've been messing around with Dwarf Fortress, Civilization IV, the Spore Creature Creator, and SimCity. I'll also occasionally play Battle for Wesnoth.

I used to play Warcraft 3 almost exclusively, and might end up reinstalling it to stop my sibling nagging me about it.

Foodstamp June 21st, 2008 09:19 PM

Re: Current other active game software
 
At the moment:

Dwarf Fortress
Master of Magic

Atreidi June 21st, 2008 10:51 PM

Re: Current other active game software
 
I am currently playing:

Civilization IV
POXNORA
Space Empires V
SPace Empires IV
Varius Fifa Managers
Oblivion (I neve quite finished it)
Currently looking for a good MMO that is not WOW.
I've tried Vanguard, LOTRO, Lineage II, Guild Wars and Star Wars but I've stayed with none http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

Edit* I forgot a couple of games http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

DigitalSin June 22nd, 2008 12:14 AM

Re: Current other active game software
 
Right now I'm playing

Dwarf Fortress
The occasional spot of Wesnoth
Sometimes I play a spot of FPS games
Company of Heroes (Only recently)
Incursion: Halls of the Goblin King

amongst others..

Omnirizon June 22nd, 2008 01:09 AM

Re: Current other active game software
 
Quote:

Atreidi said:
I am currently playing:

Civilization IV
POXNORA
Space Empires IV
SPace Empires III
Oblivion (I neve quite finished it)
Currently looking for a good MMO that is not WOW.
I've tried Vanguard, LOTRO, Lineage II, and Star Wars but I've stayed with none http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

unfortunately, there is no good MMO right now. corps saw that it was like crack, and all rushed to make a hit MMO, all going with the least risky formulas available, and thus all created WoWish clones that completely suck. WoW sucks, but at least it is quality suck; try and clone it with less money and you just suck.

GuildWars is OK though, and I would probably say is the best MMO out there, if you must have one. its PvE is doodoo though; its PvP is the whole reason to play. However, its PvP is so snobbish that its impossible to really be able to get into without making a second job out of it, thus it degrades to the least common factor that has made all MMOs complete garbage: you have to schedule your life around them.

EVE is also worthwhile, and has also has top-notch PvP and even economic PvP. Characters also grow while offline, and it is on the whole a little less snobbish. However, it is point and click, which doesn't work for me (especially inn outerspace), and the grindless growth, while a great idea, takes a year to develop and you are stuck in the meantime doing menial crap.

World of Warhammer looks like it might be fun, and seems to promise the large scale battlefield PvP that allows players to engage in fun PvP without having to dedicate their lives to a game in order to access a good PvP guild.

Actually, I'd suggest Continuum, the Metal Gear Solid room, for fun online action. log in, kill, capture some flags, talk [censored]; log out. Just that simple. It is fun. That is why after all these years, despite the presence of commercial MMO's; Continuum still thrives. Its just fun.

edit: also, alot of potentially fun MMOs pickd up Korean micro-payment model, because they noticed that you can make a half-assed game that ppl wouldn't pay for, but will in the end pay more to have something other ppl can't. It's /*[censored]*/ stupid becuase ppl are /*[censored]*/ stupid, but thats life. Just play dominions.

Gandalf Parker June 22nd, 2008 01:32 AM

Re: Current other active game software
 
Yes I still play stars sometimes but just solo. It processes fast so it makes a nice change from the kindof hosting I get from Dominions in the huge solo games I play with it.

For my "roguelike" fix I host a MUD on one of my servers. Its a text MMO based on Shadowdale. The address is play.sdmud.org 7777 if anyone can still figure out telnet or dig up a telnet client. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

For the people wondering why SEIV (Space Empires IV) keeps showing up, in many ways its a space version of Dominions. Not quite so deep on the strategy, but abit better on the modding. It started out rather weak (8 empires) but players drove it to over 300 empires you could play besides driving the maps much larger, the image file turned huge, and added more techs. It was hosted here at the time, and the forums for it are still here.

sum1lost June 22nd, 2008 01:48 AM

Re: Current other active game software
 
Spore CC, MTW 2, CS:S, Fallout Tactics, UT 2004 and thats been it for the past year, though I have other games installed.

Cor2 June 22nd, 2008 01:57 AM

Re: Current other active game software
 
Dwarf fortress, Astro Empires, Pardus, Incursion, SEIV

more Dwarf fortress. Seriously, love that game...

Cor2 June 22nd, 2008 02:04 AM

Re: Current other active game software
 
so apparently there is a large section of dominions fans that are ASCII fans. Maybe Dominions 4 should be in ASCII http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

Lingchih June 22nd, 2008 03:11 AM

Re: Current other active game software
 
Gal Civ 2 is about it for me. Just got the new expansion, but I haven't played it much, though it looks promising.

I haven't played an mmo since I quit Wow a few years ago, but Eve sounds tempting, and Warhammer even more so.

llamabeast June 22nd, 2008 04:28 AM

Re: Current other active game software
 
What do people think of SEV compared to SEIV? I was contemplating buying one of them at some point (maybe when I've finished my PhD).

Kristoffer O June 22nd, 2008 04:45 AM

Re: Current other active game software
 
Quote:

Omnirizon said:
Quote:

Atreidi said:
I am currently playing:

Civilization IV
POXNORA
Space Empires IV
SPace Empires III
Oblivion (I neve quite finished it)
Currently looking for a good MMO that is not WOW.
I've tried Vanguard, LOTRO, Lineage II, and Star Wars but I've stayed with none http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

unfortunately, there is no good MMO right now. corps saw that it was like crack, and all rushed to make a hit MMO, all going with the least risky formulas available, and thus all created WoWish clones that completely suck. WoW sucks, but at least it is quality suck; try and clone it with less money and you just suck.

GuildWars is OK though, and I would probably say is the best MMO out there, if you must have one. its PvE is doodoo though; its PvP is the whole reason to play. However, its PvP is so snobbish that its impossible to really be able to get into without making a second job out of it, thus it degrades to the least common factor that has made all MMOs complete garbage: you have to schedule your life around them.

EVE is also worthwhile, and has also has top-notch PvP and even economic PvP. Characters also grow while offline, and it is on the whole a little less snobbish. However, it is point and click, which doesn't work for me (especially inn outerspace), and the grindless growth, while a great idea, takes a year to develop and you are stuck in the meantime doing menial crap.

World of Warhammer looks like it might be fun, and seems to promise the large scale battlefield PvP that allows players to engage in fun PvP without having to dedicate their lives to a game in order to access a good PvP guild.

Actually, I'd suggest Continuum, the Metal Gear Solid room, for fun online action. log in, kill, capture some flags, talk [censored]; log out. Just that simple. It is fun. That is why after all these years, despite the presence of commercial MMO's; Continuum still thrives. Its just fun.

edit: also, alot of potentially fun MMOs pickd up Korean micro-payment model, because they noticed that you can make a half-assed game that ppl wouldn't pay for, but will in the end pay more to have something other ppl can't. It's /*[censored]*/ stupid becuase ppl are /*[censored]*/ stupid, but thats life. Just play dominions.

Guild Wars was great fun. Me JK and JO played it a lot. Mostly PvP. Got quite good at it. You don't need to be that good by yourself if you play with reliable people and voice communication.

We are trying Age of Conan now. Quite fun and beautiful, but still lots of early bugs and annoying stuff. Not as WoWish as Lotro was, but more so than GW.

JO recently discovered Desktop Defender at kongregate.com. Strangely addictive online flash game.

llamabeast June 22nd, 2008 05:16 AM

Re: Current other active game software
 
Is that Desktop Tower Defense? Oh my god that's addictive. Great game though.

JimMorrison June 22nd, 2008 05:41 AM

Re: Current other active game software
 
Quote:

Atreidi said:
I am currently playing:

POXNORA

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif I just bought my first 100 pack a couple of days ago, it is so addictive!

Other than that, I do some COD4 MP, trying to get myself to finish Mass Effect, and trying to inspire myself to the work on the incredibly obtuse "The Experiment", and I tinker a little now and then with Sins of a Solar Empire. Was also playing a lot of GalCiv2 before becoming totally immersed in Dominions again.

Additionally, when I'm not playing Dom3, I like to play Dom3. I had 4 instances of the game running on this machine the other day, I need professional help. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

PvK June 22nd, 2008 05:49 AM

Re: What other games complement your Dominions 3?
 
Ya I'm playing Flash games on Kongregate pretty regularly (Desktop Tower Defense was one that got me started), though I don't get stuck on them for very long, usually. Some of my favorites are listed at:

http://www.kongregate.com/accounts/Skarg/favorites

Amhazair June 22nd, 2008 06:37 AM

Re: What other games complement your Dominions 3?
 
I'll add one not mentioned yet: I play quite a lot of Football Manager. (Don't shoot me. While its theme is quite different, it's still a strategy game. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif ) I've been playing it intermitently since I discovered its existence 6 or 7 years ago, in 2 or 3 different versions. (I see absolutely no need to shell out 50€ every year for the new one)

Agrajag June 22nd, 2008 06:43 AM

Re: What other games complement your Dominions 3?
 
Continuum is still alive?
I played it quite a lot in ancient history, but when I tried going back to it I couldn't find a server with a playable amount of people on it.

As for the games I'm playing right now:
Dwarf Fortress
Grim Fandango (I was surprised to find it does work on XP, because last time I tried, it didn't. [maybe it was SP1 vs SP2?])
Civ IV

BTW, there was a "favorite games" thread a while back, so that might also prove an interesting related read.

DaveCG June 22nd, 2008 07:56 AM

Re: What other games complement your Dominions 3?
 
Ok, just to be different...

SEV (YEAH! TAKE THAT...really though I don't/didn't play IV enough to notice any differences, or rather any stiking ones..)

CivIV+Fall from heaven mod i.e masters of magic in civ...

Don't hate me for this one...it's my second guilty pleasure...

Sims...

OH GOD THE SHAME!

(first guilty pleasure is dynasty/samurai warriors.)

Oh, abit of City of Heroes too atm, and the odd game of age of wonders 2 shadow magic.

Twan June 22nd, 2008 08:53 AM

Re: What other games complement your Dominions 3?
 
Armaggedon Empires best indie game of last year.

Except that I mostly play oldies, good old hex wargames (WinSPWW2, Fantasy General), and 4x like MoM/MoO.

No MMO since I've stopped EQ and WoW. I was tempted by AoC but system requ are too high.

WraithLord June 22nd, 2008 09:34 AM

Re: What other games complement your Dominions 3?
 
NWN, Hordes of the underdark, Truth is it got quite boring towards the 3rd expansion but I want to complete it (like reading a book with a slow ending, seems to drag on forever)

GC-II, I'm trying to complete the first campaign but damn dominions always gets in the way http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

I've some newer flashier games on my shelf, all shiny new and hardly touched. I hope to get to them sometime soon, but my dominions condition makes chances of that slimmer every day.

When stardocks new FTBS game is out I promise (to myself) I will give it a serious try.

sector24 June 22nd, 2008 10:51 AM

Re: What other games complement your Dominions 3?
 
Stars! is a fantastic game, I still play it occasionally. I'm really starved for new games lately, did you guys see that there's a 3d remake of King's Bounty coming out this year? Oh the fond memories...

Chacal June 22nd, 2008 11:04 AM

Re: What other games complement your Dominions 3?
 
hmm for my part i lack time actually to playing, but I can say :

Football Manager 2008
Flight Simulator 2004 and X
Ultima VII and VII 1/2 via Exult

More rarely but still :
WinSPMBT
Harpoon III
DBA online

some oldies :
Doom
MofM
First Encounter...

kickthedead June 22nd, 2008 11:12 AM

Re: What other games complement your Dominions 3?
 
What ever happened to Stars!? I have that game from like 1995 or so. Is that the newest one still? I can barely find any information about it on the web. Did they ever make a new one? It is a great game.

Omnirizon June 22nd, 2008 12:23 PM

Re: Current other active game software
 
Quote:

Kristoffer O said:


Guild Wars was great fun. Me JK and JO played it a lot. Mostly PvP. Got quite good at it. You don't need to be that good by yourself if you play with reliable people and voice communication.

We are trying Age of Conan now. Quite fun and beautiful, but still lots of early bugs and annoying stuff. Not as WoWish as Lotro was, but more so than GW.

JO recently discovered Desktop Defender at kongregate.com. Strangely addictive online flash game.


I remember posting in the last "other games" thread about desktop defender and how addictive it was. I remember the day I found it, i literally spent several hours that day playing; and I was supposed to be doing homework (I was just burnt out with all the reading though).

Ultimately, I couldn't swallow desktop defenders whole because to do best it requires deleting and rebuilding key towers to force the little guys to turn around and go through the whole maze again. That kind of reduced the design and strat aspect with some action and timing aspects; which I didn't like.

There is a game with the exact same concept as desktop, also at Kongregate, called Defender where you can't remove your guys, thus making the placement and order of placement an important part of the design and strategy.

sector24 June 22nd, 2008 01:12 PM

Re: What other games complement your Dominions 3?
 
Quote:

kickthedead said:
What ever happened to Stars!? I have that game from like 1995 or so. Is that the newest one still? I can barely find any information about it on the web. Did they ever make a new one? It is a great game.

From wikipedia:

Stars! Supernova Genesis
The huge popularity of the original Stars! game convinced the developers that there would be a market for a sequel. The developers of Stars! formed a company called Mare Crisium Studios and began development of Supernova Genesis. This was intended to be a much more advanced game, with significantly better graphics, and also to remove some of the irritations of the original (such as the level of micro-management).

Unfortunately there was little interest from games publishers who by that time had become focused exclusively on the video game console and high-end 3D games markets, and so the project was eventually abandoned. As rights to the ingame graphics remain with Empire, it is unlikely that the game will be brought back into production.


[edit] Stars! 3
On August 27, 2005, information about a second sequel, tentatively named Stars! 3, was posted to Usenet.[3] Developed in private by ex-members of the Supernova Genesis team, it has an uncertain future, hinting on a return to the self-publishing model.

I played Protector on Kongregate all the way through. Those dektop defenders are fun, but if you play one you've pretty much played them all.

DonCorazon June 22nd, 2008 01:31 PM

Re: What other games complement your Dominions 3?
 
Quote:

Twan said:
Armaggedon Empires best indie game of last year.



I tried the demo as I loved the theme on this but found even a minor battle just takes too long. It was like a clickfest but in turn based mode. Maybe I was missing something on the UI but I gave it up when my fingers started cramping up...

HoneyBadger June 22nd, 2008 01:59 PM

Re: Current other active game software
 
Ok, tower defense games are definitely my guilty pleasure. Although I really wish there were more out there with pathfinding-Desktop Tower Defense is still one of the best ones, but there is sooo much that can be improved. And I can't stand to even look at the TDs that don't have pathfinding.

I love Dwarf Fortress with a passion. I'm going to mod the hell out of it though, first chance I get.

Space Empires IV was another great game. I hope V is good too, but I'm giving the plenty of time to iron out the kinks.

I want to play Planescape: Torment again. I still have all the disks and the package they came in.

I was really excited about GalCiv2, but the latest version refuses to run on my computer, and before that I'd get bluescreened every few rounds.

The Total War series is another guilty pleasure. I hope someday they redo the Shogun version though-maybe expand it to include more of Asia, and Russia? I'd love to see Russian Vikings square off against Japanese Samurai-talk about a War of the Worlds! A fantasy version would also be great.

King's Bounty is the game that got me into strategy wargaming. I couldn't tell you how many times I played that game. I still remember most of the details about it, and it's been years.

Fallout was a near-perfect game.
Anybody else heard that the rights to Wasteland got bought by the same company that redid The Bard's Tale? They're making a Fallout 3 too, but what I'm really interested in, and hopeful about, is Afterfall.

Has anyone here played Dungeons of Daggorath? If ever there was a game that should be redone, it's that. Daggorath was the most intense, scariest dungeon crawl ever. All in wireframe, and made a million years ago with less code than Tetris.

I played Master of Magic, ofcourse, and Lords of Magic: Special Edition.

The Continuum is still alive-infact I'm supposed to be a beta-tester, but my computer won't support the game. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

BatMUD might be a good MMO to check out. It's free, for one thing, and there are TONS of races to play. I also think the creators are Finnish. I don't know how good it is, but it's been around since the '90s, and there's a lot to it-they've also recently updated it.

There are quite a few completely free MMOs around, many of which are a lot more interesting that WoW or Everquest-although admittedly, I enjoyed Everquest for a while.
I suggest you spend an afternoon or two researching the independent MMOs online-it's worth your time and trouble.

Diablo-the first one, not the second one, was also a favorite. I liked how creepy it was, kind of like a horror version of Gauntlet. Diablo 2 was just overdone though, in my opinion. Not a bad time-waster, but too much going on, without enough atmosphere to pull it all together.

Starcraft was (incase you've been living on Mars for the last 10 years) another great game, and one that I still enjoy. They're finally doing a Starcraft 2! WOOOOO!

Other than the pleasure of a murderous, steroid-enduced, carjacking spree that is Grand Theft Auto IV, and the pure orgasmic Cyber-Apocalypse that is NeoContra, I haven't found too many games on the Playstation 2 that I really enjoyed. Anyone have any suggestions?

Gandalf Parker June 22nd, 2008 02:22 PM

Re: Current other active game software
 
For some reason I cant find Space Empires V as addicitive as Space Empires IV.

For those who have really REALLY fond memories of old games, you might try doing a search. Particularly at open source sites such as SourceForge. It seems as if there are always projects trying to resurrect or claiming to be based on some of my favorites. Stars!, Master of Magic, Magic Realms (an old board game), etc. You can jump into the project forum and give suggestions to keep them on course, maybe help with the writing, the graphics, the beta-testing. And maybe drop a hint that if they want a really good publisher for independent projects, Shrapnel is one they should check out http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

HoneyBadger June 22nd, 2008 02:48 PM

Re: Current other active game software
 
Dungeons of Daggorath has open source code. I really wish someone would create a Flash/Browser version. I thing it would be perfect for Flash.

Agrajag June 22nd, 2008 02:49 PM

Re: Current other active game software
 
I think Open Source and game publishing are kind of mutually exclusive http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif
UFO: Alien Invasion is pretty cool BTW, an open source modern XCOM.

HoneyBadger June 22nd, 2008 03:20 PM

Re: Current other active game software
 
There was a fantasy version of XCOM out too-if it hadn't been so buggy on my computer, it would have been pretty interesting. I forget the name but it's in the Home of the Underdogs.

JimMorrison June 22nd, 2008 04:12 PM

Re: Current other active game software
 
Quote:

HoneyBadger said:
The Total War series is another guilty pleasure. I hope someday they redo the Shogun version though-maybe expand it to include more of Asia, and Russia? I'd love to see Russian Vikings square off against Japanese Samurai-talk about a War of the Worlds! A fantasy version would also be great.

...

Fallout was a near-perfect game.
Anybody else heard that the rights to Wasteland got bought by the same company that redid The Bard's Tale? They're making a Fallout 3 too, but what I'm really interested in, and hopeful about, is Afterfall.

...

Other than the pleasure of a murderous, steroid-enduced, carjacking spree that is Grand Theft Auto IV, and the pure orgasmic Cyber-Apocalypse that is NeoContra, I haven't found too many games on the Playstation 2 that I really enjoyed. Anyone have any suggestions?


Total War series is quite bittersweet for me. When Shogun was released, I went out and bought a brand new shiny 733mhz P4, and put together my first (and only overpriced) homebuild. I agonized at the store between Total Annihilation, and Shogun as my first brand new game to test the capacities of my lovely new Voodoo 4500. I instantly fell in love when I started playing it, it was absolutely revolutionary. Unfortunately, as the graphics and animations have improved, and they have done much to make the strategy layer more interesting - they somehow keep managing to erode the behavioral AI in the tactical combat, such that the battles are less enjoyable now because of all of the little quirks and bugs (some of which I think were intentionally placed in order to simulate certain real behaviors, but which just play out as poor control). What I really want them to do is just focus on making the most powerful engine that they can, and then sell us packages that go within that engine for $5-10 apiece. I'm tired of buying the "latest and greatest", complete with all of its limitations. I want Shogun and Rome (both of which are far cooler in setting than Medieval, to me), in the new shiny engine - but I want the battles to work as well as they used to.

< pause for breath > http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/redface.gif

According to Wikipedia, Interplay only purchased the rights to the Fallout franchise. They then sold those rights to Bethesda, who is releasing Fallout 3 in October of this year. Supposedly Interplay DID retain the right to initiate development on the Fallout MMO that they had planned, but there is no current news on that. The Wasteland property was purchased by the studio InExile, which belongs to Brian Fargo, the producer of the original Wasteland. InExile just released Hei$t, has anyone played it? I'm curious what they've been up to there, other than THEIR remake of Bard's Tale in 2004. Or is that what you were referring to, Badger? It gets confusing, you see Interplay made the original Bard's Tale, and Fallout 1/2, whereas Westwood did Wasteland, and InExile did the remake of Bard's Tale and now has the rights to Wasteland. This is an incestuous group of gamemakers, and I wish someone with millions of dollars would have the vision to unite them.

As for the PS2, did you ever play Archon back in the day? One of the best games ever IMO. Apparently the game Wrath Unleashed has a very similar concept, but made more strategically deep, and not so frantically fast paced as The Unholy War was. Otherwise, it's rare for me to find a console game that really grabs me/ Played a lot of FIFA with my brother, but I think sports games are mindnumbingly boring unless played socially.

Gandalf Parker June 22nd, 2008 04:55 PM

Re: Current other active game software
 
Quote:

Agrajag said:
I think Open Source and game publishing are kind of mutually exclusive http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif
UFO: Alien Invasion is pretty cool BTW, an open source modern XCOM.

Actually no. Many open source games have later decided to become published. And even if they stay open source, a reasonable price for distribution can be charged.

Altho my favorites will always tend to be a split. Going published for the execuatable and staying open source for the rest (mods, maps, AI, etc)

HoneyBadger June 22nd, 2008 06:11 PM

Re: Current other active game software
 
I played Archon when I was young, the original game. The chess thing? It was great, except the neighbor kid-who was a couple years younger than I was, and a snotty kid at that-would always beat me at it. Eventually, influenced by the Karate Kid, I kicked him in the stomach, and he ran crying to his momma. Apparently, he'd been taking karate, and insisted he could block me. But me and Mr Miagi won that round...heh heh

das123 June 22nd, 2008 06:54 PM

Re: What other games complement your Dominions 3?
 
Quote:

kickthedead said:
What ever happened to Stars!? I have that game from like 1995 or so. Is that the newest one still? I can barely find any information about it on the web. Did they ever make a new one? It is a great game.

There was a new game being built but it was abandoned many years ago. I think that this is the only Stars site left...

Stars Auto Host

JimMorrison June 22nd, 2008 06:55 PM

Re: Current other active game software
 
Hey - a question for those who are using the Spore Creature Creator right now -

I just DLed the free version because I've been following Spore, and think it'll be incredibly enjoyable, but I'm a bit iffy on spending $10 now just to tinker with something I'm going to actually buy in September. I noticed that the website shows the price of Spore as $50, so I was curious if they're just trying to ameliorate their long development costs by making the packages separate, where if you buy Spore in Sept for $50, you still need the CC for $10 anyway, bringing the total cost to the "socially accepted" $60 for a new game? I couldn't find the info on that, so just wondered if anyone had heard.

sum1lost June 22nd, 2008 07:04 PM

Re: Current other active game software
 
Quote:

JimMorrison said:
Hey - a question for those who are using the Spore Creature Creator right now -

I just DLed the free version because I've been following Spore, and think it'll be incredibly enjoyable, but I'm a bit iffy on spending $10 now just to tinker with something I'm going to actually buy in September. I noticed that the website shows the price of Spore as $50, so I was curious if they're just trying to ameliorate their long development costs by making the packages separate, where if you buy Spore in Sept for $50, you still need the CC for $10 anyway, bringing the total cost to the "socially accepted" $60 for a new game? I couldn't find the info on that, so just wondered if anyone had heard.

If you get the full CC, you get 5 dollars off of the full version of Spore, so 55$

Thanks to the weak dollar, thats actually not that bad. I definitely will be getting it. Although I won't be getting the CC separately.

Tyrant June 22nd, 2008 07:07 PM

Re: Current other active game software
 
Europa Universalis 3, Sins of a Solar Empire, flash games on Kongregate (including DTD)

Both EU3 and Sins are kinda odd ducks. I play 'em both a bit, and i'm not sorry i spent $ on them, but i cannot really give either an unqualified endorsement.

Sins is "neat" and different from any other RTS i've seen, but it somehow lacks a soul. You know all those lovely little flourishes that raise Dominions from "Best Game Ever" to "BEST GAME EVER!" Sins needs some of those desperately. It's like a well drawn picture of an unremarkable subject, it just doesn't sparkle.

EU3 is more like "Sim History" than a competitive game. I love the predecessors and it's a solid game that adds some nifty new features, but the makers have stubbornly refused to fix certain very simple and obvious flaws despite having redone the game twice. They also decided to replace the perfectly adequate 2D graphics with perfectly awful 3D graphics. A bit frustrating in that way.

It's cool to see Stars mentioned so much. I went to that one after VGA Planets, but i could never find a good online community and both times i tried to play MP the games collapsed.

I'm going to have to check out Dwarf Fortress, I've heard good things from so many different sources that it's got to be worth a looksee.

Gandalf Parker June 22nd, 2008 08:10 PM

Re: Current other active game software
 
Spore Creature:
wont run for me. I get the Direct X Unavailable error that others get. Still watching for a fix

Europa Universalis:
Abit too much history for me. I can understand why it forces the events it does but Id rather the druids could win.

VGA Planets: I really liked VGAP3. I pre-ordered VGAP4 back in 2001 and Im still waiting for it to get out of beta. For anyone who likes really REALLY deep games, its worth looking at but it seems to just keep getting deeper and deeper instead of ever releasing

HoneyBadger June 22nd, 2008 08:11 PM

Re: Current other active game software
 
Dwarf Fortress is one of the few games that I can recommend unequivically to anyone who's a big fan of Dom3. 99% chance you're going to like it.

No graphics worth mentioning, extremely high learning curve, narrow focus, tons of stuff yet to be implemented-including a magic system-a touchy UI, cranky forum members (atleast some of them were), and yet, a whole cartload of pure greatness.

Omnirizon June 22nd, 2008 10:23 PM

Re: Current other active game software
 
Quote:

Tyrant said:

Both EU3 and Sins are kinda odd ducks. I play 'em both a bit, and i'm not sorry i spent $ on them, but i cannot really give either an unqualified endorsement.

Sins is "neat" and different from any other RTS i've seen, but it somehow lacks a soul. You know all those lovely little flourishes that raise Dominions from "Best Game Ever" to "BEST GAME EVER!" Sins needs some of those desperately. It's like a well drawn picture of an unremarkable subject, it just doesn't sparkle.



its interesting you say this. in another video game thread, I was talking about how GalCiv just doesn't do it, and how all Stardock games are well made, but just lack a certain something. They hit all the nails, and look great, but just are lacking this something, this soul. You just can't quite describe it, but Stardock games just don't have it. Its those little things, the panache, the "sparkle" as you say.

Gandalf Parker June 22nd, 2008 10:47 PM

Re: Current other active game software
 
Yes Ive bought many BEAUTIFUL games, which lasted about a month on my machine.

Such conversations happen in many forums. Games such as Stars!, Master of Magic, VGA Planets, Space Empires IV, King of Dragon Pass, etc etc appear on many dedicated gamers machines even though they are ancient in game terms. Trying to discover why has intrigued many a developer. The never-ending existence of some text-based games and MMOs also come up.

Ive watched half a dozen Master of Magic 2 projects fail. Instead of just recreating it (at least as a starting point) they cant help but try to "improve" on it which tends to kill it.

I have my own opinions on the matter, which I tend to post frequently to such forums.

MaxWilson June 22nd, 2008 11:13 PM

Re: Current other active game software
 
Quote:

Omnirizon said:
Quote:

Tyrant said:

Both EU3 and Sins are kinda odd ducks. I play 'em both a bit, and i'm not sorry i spent $ on them, but i cannot really give either an unqualified endorsement.

Sins is "neat" and different from any other RTS i've seen, but it somehow lacks a soul. You know all those lovely little flourishes that raise Dominions from "Best Game Ever" to "BEST GAME EVER!" Sins needs some of those desperately. It's like a well drawn picture of an unremarkable subject, it just doesn't sparkle.



its interesting you say this. in another video game thread, I was talking about how GalCiv just doesn't do it, and how all Stardock games are well made, but just lack a certain something. They hit all the nails, and look great, but just are lacking this something, this soul. You just can't quite describe it, but Stardock games just don't have it. Its those little things, the panache, the "sparkle" as you say.

Ah. It sounds like Sins is in need of a few "Lost a few eyes"/"Lost head" afflictions and ambidextrous Benjamite slingers and interlocking hero stories (Udum'kinaa and Etimmu come to mind). Little touches that make it awesome. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif Oh, and a few hoburgs and blood slaves. And Bogus' band of merry raiders.

-Max


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