Surviving Armageddon
 

High HP and high protection will both help mages survive Armageddon.

But for some reason my hobbit mages are just not dying very often. They've all lived through about 10 Armageddons now.

Does defense help? Does stealth help?

Maybe it's just that cheap leather armor they wear (6 body prot), combined with a little luck (my luck, not hobbit luck) and GoH (~10HP instead of 5).

Re: Surviving Armageddon
 

I'd say stealth, but that is just interpreting stuff from other posts and subjects combined and not based on any testing or real knowledge

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It's all the Hobbit Weed. The secret to surviving earthquakes, is being low to the ground.

"Woah dude, did you feel that?"

"Yeah, I am sooooo hungry right now, but I can't stand up."

"I really don't think that was your stomach."

"I'm just saying it could've been....."

Re: Surviving Armageddon
 

I spy into my little crystal glass and I see...

Armageddon kills 20% of the population in every province. Afterwards, all units on the map (not in special provinces like the Arena, the Void or the hells) have a 20% chance to fall victim to an attack. The attack is a single body hit, with 15 damage of type earth (which prolly means it's mundane damage). There's some spec value set, I don't know about them enough, but apart from what I already said, it's the same attack like the ballista and crossbow bolts when somebody visits an adventure site.

As far as I can see, there are certainly no special abilities that protect from the attack, nor are there any defense rolls.

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Thanks lch!

I guess it's that little bit of armor cutting the damage down to 9, and then the GoH for a few more HP, that's keeping them alive.

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:D
Clever.
Who needs to consult the source code when it is obviously the very high (higher than a kite) THC bless strategy at work?

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vfb, if you turn on debugging while hosting you should see the damage to all the units on the map done by Armageddon, I'd think.

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Thanks, but I'm not hosting at the moment. I'm just yet another llamaserver client.

Besides, I'd have to play too, and then I couldn't look at the server logs! Or do you mean just for testing. Unfortunately I'm in too many games and don't have time for much testing. :(

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Better start a tread how to survive Armageddon accompanied by AC.
Muhahahahahahahaa

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As Armageddon was spammed in Kingmaker, I did some tests with it. Average damage is probably around 15, like vfb says, but it can be over 20 too, so there must be some random roll involved [it can be below 10 too]. Protection and Luck help against it. Fire plate makes a huge difference [fire plate on Ktonian Necromancers reduces mortality rate by about 75%]. Defense, stealth, ethereality do not help. And all that killing is very random. You may lose 9/10 guys in 1 province and 0/10 in 2nd.

The base damage is 15. This will, like usual, be affected by a DRN value.
I'm surprised that ethereality doesn't seem to help, because the damage is definitely earth-based / mundane damage, not one of the other elements where there are resistances against. The Fire Plates must be a fluke, either your units didn't get hit as there's a general 80% chance to avoid damage, or the plate increased the protection enough so that the damage didn't matter. As for ethereality, the units get a direct hit with no roll to avoid it of any kind. Maybe the way ethereality works is to prevent getting hit in combat at all, instead of negating the damage, I didn't check this.

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Are you sure there isn't a fire attack that occurs after the earth attack, lch? In the description, you're first exposed to an earthquake, which is presumably AP mundane damage, then exposed to meteors, which is presumably AP fire damage. The fire attack would explain why etherealness doesn't help, but a Fire Plate does.

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fyi - Armageddon is actually a location, not an event. The cataclysmic battle between good & evil that decides the fate of - and signals the end of - the world occurs at Armageddon. "Apocalypse" is probably a better title for a world shattering Wish, but not great. "Poor CO2 Management" or "Global Stupidity" may be better. ;)

Re: Surviving Armageddon
 

lch:

I did plenty of tests on big groups on premade map. Used scouts and ktonian necromancers. The only thing that helps was protection and luck [of course besides high HP or shroud with S9 bless]. Robe of Shadows didn't help at all. Fire Plate on 0 prot unit was enough to decrease deaths on 9 HP units by about 75%.

P.S. I doubt there is any fire damage involved. I tested with fire plate just because fire gems are cheaper than earth. And I could easily make lots of them with Forge to protect some mages.

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Sorry, I've been giving wrong numbers before - there's not an 80% chance to fall victim to the Armageddon attack, but to AVOID it. Just like with population, only 20% of units will be affected by the Armageddon attack, but the population dies immediately while the units might make it through the attack with high HP, protection or luck. I have corrected my posts.

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You wouldn't believe it but I was wondering about your stats yesterday night... :D How was it possible that the random artisan had an 80% chance of not getting hit by this world-destroying armageddon, and an heavy trained SC had the 20%?? :p

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Normal Dominions population all run around in armor, so 80% get hit, but only 20% die. =)