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MarkSheppard September 28th, 2020 05:42 PM

Caucasus War 2020 How-To-Guide
 
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A quick and dirty short guide to playing the Armenia v. Azerbaijan showdown in SPCAMO

Use these pregenerated Map Regions:

41 - Caucasus
44 - Caucasus
128 - Mountain
133 - Mountain City
138 - Mountain River

Because the place is pretty much 99.99% mountain, as shown by this picture of a pre-war Armenian training exercise:

https://i.imgur.com/va3bPhs.jpg

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Sources
Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...n_Armed_Forces
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92...BD%D0%B8%D0%B8
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/102-%D...B0%D0%B7%D0%B0
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern...ni_Land_Forces
https://hy.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D5%80...AA%D5%A5%D6%80

IISS The Military Balance 2020

Reportage by RC4 later in this thread, citing SIPRI Arms Transfer Sheets, and misc OBAT information

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After the collapse of the USSR, the Tashkent Agreement saw the division of 15,800 T-72 tanks between the eight post-Soviet states; with Armenia and Azerbaijan each receiving 220 tanks.

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Armenia

Armenia Basic OBAT==========================

SOF Regiment (or Brigade)
Motorized Rifle Training Brigade

I Corps
--Recon Battalion
--Tank Battalion
--2 x Motorized Rifle Regiments
--Maintenance Battalion

II Corps
--Recon Battalion
--Tank Battalion
--2 x Motorized Rifle Regiments
--Light Infantry Regiment
--Artillery Battalion

III Corps
--Recon Battalion
--Tank Battalion
--4 x Motorized Rifle Regiments
--Light Infantry Regiment
--Artillery Battalion
--MRL Battalion
--Signals Battalion
--Maintenance Battalion

IV Corps
--4 x Motorized Rifle Regiments
--SP Artillery Battalion
--Signals Battalion

V Corps
--Motorized Rifle Regiment
--7th Fortified Area (GYUMRI)
--9th Fortified Area (ETCHMIADZIN)


Basically pick common 1989-1995 Russian stuff for small arms (AK-74, RPK-74, PK, NSV, Kord)

MANPADS
--Strela-3 (SA-14)
--Igla-1 (SA-16)
--Igla (SA-18) -- Received 40 firing units with 200 missiles in 1995-96.
--Igla-S (SA-24) -- Received 200 missiles in 2013 and 200 more in 2016,
--9K333 Verba (SA-25) -- Received 200 missiles in 2016-17.

ATGM and Weapons:
RPG-7
RPG-26
RPO-A Shmel
SPG-9 Recoilless Gun
9M14 Malyutka ATGM
9K111 Fagot (AT-4) -- Received 945 missiles in 1993-1996.
9M111M Faktoriya
9M113 Konkurs
9M113M Konkurs-M
9M113M-2 Kornet-EM (50 launchers with 200 missiles purchased in 2013)
9K114 Shturm
9K115 Metis
MILAN (with locally made night sight)
T-12 Rapira 100mm AT Guns
9P149 Shturm-S Tank Destroyer (27 units with 9M120 Ataka)
9P148 Tank Destroyer with 9M113M Konkurs-M

Armenian Tanks==========================

11 to 30 x T-90S (nobody is sure of the exact figure)

101 x T-72s which are the following models:

T-72A
T-72AV
T-72B/B1/obr.1989
T-72B3

A contract was signed in 2017 to modernize all of them to T-72B3 level; but I don't know the progress of that modernization program.

3 x T-54
5 x T-55

(Down from 80~ T-54/55 in service with Armenia in 2001-2006 time frame)

Armenian APC/Light Vehicles==========================

50 x BMP-2 (lightly modernized, from Russia in 1995-96)
90 x BMP-1
108 x BTR-60 (withdrawn but possibly in reserve?)
18 x BTR-70
160 x BTR-80
145 x MT-LB
120 x BRDM-2
10 x Tigr 4x4 MRAP (2011-Present)

Armenian Gun Artillery==========================

10~ x 2S1 Gvozdika 122mm SPH
28~ x 2S3 Akatsiya 152mm SPH
69~ D-30 122mm Towed Howitzers
34~ D-20 152mm Towed Howitzers
26~ x 2A36 Giatsint-B 152mm Towed Guns

Armenian Rocket Artillery==========================

45+ BM-21 GRAD 122mm MRL
6 x BM-30 SMERCH 300mm MRL (2016-Present)
6 x TOS-1 Buratino
4 x WM-80 (Chinese Type 83 273mm MRL) (1999-Present)

Armenian Missile Artillery==========================

8 x 9K72 Elbrus (SS-1C SCUD-B) SRBM TELs with 24 missiles (1996 present)
7-8 x 9K79 Tochka (SS-21 SCARAB) SRBM
4 x 9K720 Iskander-E SRBM TELs with 25 missiles (2016-Present)

Armenian Air Defenses==========================

2 x S-300PS (SA-10B) SAM Sets with 144 x 5V55U missiles (2009-Present)
9 x 2K11 (SA-4) Krug SAM Sets with 349 x 3M8M1 missiles (2009-Present)
2 x Tor-M2KM (SA-15) SAM sets with 50 x 9M338 missiles (2019-Present)
4 x Osa-AK (SA-8B) SAM sets with 120 x 9M33 missiles (2019-Present)

Armenian Air Force==========================

4 x Su-30SM
14 x Su-25K
12 x Mi-8/17/171
7 x Mi-24P HIND
2 x Mi-24K HIND
2 x Mi-24R HIND
6 x L-39 Trainers
15 - 20 UAV

==========================Russian Wild Card==========================

102nd Military Base of the Group of Russian Forces in Transcaucasia

In 2013, the chief commander of 102nd military base Andrey Ruzinsky said in an interview that "If Azerbaijan decides to restore jurisdiction over Nagorno-Karabakh by force the [Russian] military base may join in the armed conflict in accordance with the Russian Federation’s obligations within the framework of the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO)."

In November 1990, the 127th Motor-Rifle Division assigned to the base had:

60 x T-72
46 x BMP-2
71 x BMP-1
85 x BTR-70
6 x BTR-60
12 x 2S1 Gvozdika 122mm SPH
72 x D-30 122mm Howitzers
12 x BM-21 Grad

In 1994, the 127nd MRD was reorganized into the 102nd Military Base.

In 2010, the basing agreement was extended until 2044.

As of 2020; I have no idea what's there; but in 2005; it had:

74 tanks
165 armoured vehicles
84 artillery pieces
18 x MiG-29
S-300 SAM

and:

After the withdrawal of Russian troops from Georgia, a large amount of military equipment from former Russian military bases in Batumi and Akhalkalaki was transferred to the 102nd base

==========================Republic of Artsakh==========================

Which maintains the Nagorno-Karabakh Defence Army.

These guys have:

300 x T-72
30 x T-55
200 to 400 Amored vehicles (of which 250 are IFV?)
300 to 400 artillery pieces over 122mm
44 x MRLS (BM-21 GRAD?)
2 x Su-25
4 x Mi-24
5 x Mi-8
4 x UAVs

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Azerbaijan

Much more well equipped than Armenia due to oil money; but very little standardization in their forces as a result of this.

Azerbaijan Basic OBAT==========================

(NOTE, incomplete; I got some of this from skimming Azerbaijani websites.)

I Corps (Gorus)
--522nd Brigade
--539th Brigade

II Corps
--555th Motorized Rifle Regiment
--706th Motorized Rifle Brigade

III Corps (Vanadzor)
--3rd (Vanadzor) Motor Rifle Regiment
--246th (Ijevan) Motor Rifle Regiment
--543rd (Noyemberyan) Motor Rifle Regiment
--549th (Chambarak) Motor Rifle Regiment

IV Corps (Yeghaknadzor)
--527th Motor Rifle Regiment

V Corps (Nubarashen)
--9th Motor Rifle Regiment
--4th Motor Rifle Regiment
--545th Motor Rifle Regiment

Azerbaijani Infantry Weapons==========================

Amusingly enough, they use a variant of the AR-15/M-16 chambered in 7.62x39 as their primary infantry weapon, with Special Forces using the M4 Carbine. They still have a lot of AK-74 clone rifles in service.

Azerbaijani ATGM / AT weapons==========================

AT-1K Raybolt from South Korea (70 launchers)
B-300 ATGM from Israel
Spike-LR ATGM (100~ missiles delivered by Israel, 2009-2010).
MILAN
9K111 Fagot
9M113 Konkurs
9M133 Kornet (AT-14) (100~ missiles delivered by Russia, 2009-2010).
24 x 9P157-2 (BMP-3 based) Khrizantema-S ATGM Vehicles with 800 x 9M123 (AT-15) ATGM (Delivered by Russia from 2017-18).
RPG-7

Azerbaijani MANPADS==========================

17 x FIM-92 Stinger from USA
200 x Igla-S (SA-24) Launchers with 1,000 missiles (Russia from 2012-13).
18 x Strela-3 (SA-14) Launchers (Ukraine in 2008).

Azerbaijani Tanks==========================

100 x T-90S (Delivered by Russia from 2013-2015)

Their T-72 fleet is about 500-600, broken down as:

T-72A
T-72M1 (259 were received from 2002-2013 from Slovakia, Ukraine, Belarus and Russia)
T-72 SIM1 "Aslan" -- Both T-72A and T-72M1 were deeply modernized by Israel's Elbit/Rafael (https://elbitsystems.com/media/T-72.pdf) to include:

Digital Ballistic Computer
Commander's Independent Thermal Viewer to complement a modern thermal sight for gunner.
Driver's Thermal Night Vision.
7.5 kW APU
New radios to replace obsolete Soviet-manufactured radios
Kontakt-1 quality ERA
GPS navigation

95 x T-55 (Survivors of 150~ vehicles delivered by Ukraine in 1993-1994?)

Azerbaijani APC/Light Vehicles==========================

118 x BMP-3M with Thermal Sights and 1,000 9M117 (AT-10) Bastion ATGMs (Delivered 2013-15).
33 x BMP-2M Modernized by Elbit.
43 x BMP-1
20 x BMD-1
18 x BTR-80 (Delivered by Ukraine, 2007)
70 x BTR-80A (Delivered by Russia, 2007-10).
76 x BTR-82A (Delivered by Russia, 2017-18).

132 x BTR-70 "Shimsek" modernized variant with modern FCS and thermal sights in a new turret developed with South Africa (2A14 23mm Autocannon and 7.62mm PKT Coaxial). (Pic attached).
(The "Shimsek" BTR-70s appear to be the survivors of 150 x BTR-70 delivered by the Ukraine from 2007-2010.)

10 x BTR-60
60~ x BRDM-2
20 ~ x ZKDM (modernized BRDM-2) with a new blast resistant hull shape, and new remote turret with twin barrel 23mm GSh-23 cannon, 7.62mm PKT Coax, 30mm AGS-17 launcher, four 57mm/80mm rocket launchers.
336 x MT-LB
85 x Marauder 4x4 MRAP (25 South Africa 2009-11+30 2012+30 2013-15 w/assembly in Azerbaijan)
60 x Matador 4x4 MRAP (25 South Africa 2010-11+35 2012-15 w/assembly in Azerbaijan)
100 x SandCat 4x4 APV (Israel 2016-18)
10 x SandCat Spike-LR 4x4 Tank Destroyer with 250 Spike-LR ATGM (Delivered by Israel in 2016).
10 x Sandcat SPEAR w/CARDOM 120mm 4x4 SPM (Israel 2018)
10 x Sufa 4x4 APV (Israel 2009-10)
35 x Cobra 4x4 APV (Turkey 2010-11)
37 x Shorland 4x4 APV (Turkey 2010-2011)

Azerbaijani Gun Artillery==========================

46~ x 2S1 Gvozdika 122mm SPH
6~ x 2S3 Akatsiya 152mm SPH
12 x 2S7 Pion 203mm SPA
18 x 2S19 Msta SPH
100 x DANA 152mm Wheeled Guns from Czechs
5 x ATMOS 2000 155mm SPA (Delivered by Israel, 2010)
18 x 2S31 Vena 120mm SP Mortar (BMP-3 based) (Delivered by Russia, 2012-14).
50 x 2S9 Nona 120mm SP Gun-Mortar
129 x 2A18 (D-30) 122mm Towed Howitzers
24 x D-20 152mm Towed Howitzers
18 x 2A36 152mm Towed Guns
36 x M-46 130mm Towed Guns

Azerbaijani Rocket Artillery==========================

43 x BM-21
30 x BM-30 Smerch
17 x TOS-1
45 x MLRS 107
21 x T-122 Sakarya
30 x Lynx (Israeli)

Azerbaijani Missile Artillery==========================

4 x LORA MRL with 50 LORA Missiles (Delivered 2018, 400 km range)
TRG-300 Kaplan (20 launchers from Turkey)
Tochka (4 launchers, 120 km range)
10 x B200BM Polonez MRL (Belarus, 2018-19, 300 km range)

Azerbaijani Air Force==========================

5 x MiG-21
12 x MiG-29
12 x Su-25
65 x Mi-17
17 x Mi-36 HIND
4 x Ka-32
12 x Aero L-39 trainers
35+ UAVs of miscellaneous types

RC4 October 3rd, 2020 03:55 AM

Re: Caucasus War 2020 How-To-Guide
 
Eh Eh !!
21st Century
Last release, keep the sound low
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSh5...ature=emb_logo

RC4 October 3rd, 2020 04:02 AM

Re: Caucasus War 2020 How-To-Guide
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mJf...ature=emb_logo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2jd...ature=emb_logo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJVL...ature=emb_logo

RC4 October 3rd, 2020 04:04 AM

Re: Caucasus War 2020 How-To-Guide
 
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1310182923644145672

RC4 October 3rd, 2020 04:23 AM

Re: Caucasus War 2020 How-To-Guide
 
https://twitter.com/i/status/1312098466676441090
https://twitter.com/i/status/1310225066907652096
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_U4i...ature=emb_logo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzGK...ature=emb_logo
https://twitter.com/i/status/1310266512888995841
https://youtu.be/i4h8yahmxVc

RC4 October 3rd, 2020 04:30 AM

Re: Caucasus War 2020 How-To-Guide
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5K8a...ature=emb_logo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quu-...ature=emb_logo

DRG October 3rd, 2020 08:17 AM

Re: Caucasus War 2020 How-To-Guide
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iA3_aTkr-H4

A breakdown of the origins of the conflict and also shows a breakdown of troops and equipment

DRG October 3rd, 2020 08:24 AM

Re: Caucasus War 2020 How-To-Guide
 
I had been thinking that perhaps the game showed too many tanks as flaming wreaks but after viewing the one link provided above

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2jd...ature=emb_logo

I'm thinking maybe not

MarkSheppard October 3rd, 2020 11:40 AM

Re: Caucasus War 2020 How-To-Guide
 
The big takeaway from this war is that loitering munitions such as:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAI_Harpy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAI_Harop

have "come of age".

Basically, all of the loitering munitions have a 20-30 kg HE-FRAG warhead and can either operate in:

"Fire at predicted enemy concentration, autonomously search for targets, if no target found either self destruct or return to base"

"Man in loop control" with someone watching the video and confirming what to strike or not.

And because they're smaller and move slower than "traditional" air defense targets, they're overlooked by conventional SHORAD/Air Defenses.

Then again, like in Operation Desert Storm, we're only seeing the "good" videos of successful loitering munition attacks; the Azerbaijani MoD isn't going to post video of them being shot down or missing their targets.

MarkSheppard October 3rd, 2020 11:41 AM

Re: Caucasus War 2020 How-To-Guide
 
This is from an Armenian military exercise. Looks very flat, with almost no cover.

https://i.imgur.com/va3bPhs.jpg

EDIT:

Camouflage for both sides:
MiG-29 (Azerbaijani) (Multi-Tone Blue)
Su-30SM (Armenian) (Multi-Tone Blue)
Su-25 (Armenian/Azerbaijani) (Green/Tan camo)

MarkSheppard October 3rd, 2020 11:55 AM

Re: Caucasus War 2020 How-To-Guide
 
This is interesting, regarding Armenia's T-90 Fleet:

Back in 2014, they won a *single* T-90 due to their performance at the Tank Bialathon in Russia:

http://asbarez.com/126040/armenia-wi...n-competition/

Quote:

ALABINO (Itar-Tass)—Armenia won a tank at the World Tank Biathlon Championship that concluded on Saturday outside Moscow, the organizing committee reported.

Armenia was second in the newly introduced global military sporting event and was awarded a certificate for a new T-90 tank.
Then after the 2016 Nagorno–Karabakh clashes (Four Day War)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_N...rabakh_clashes

Apparently Russia supplied 16 to 30 T-90S to Armenia after that conflict.

FASTBOAT TOUGH October 3rd, 2020 12:41 PM

Re: Caucasus War 2020 How-To-Guide
 
Light background of the situation and current armor losses on both sides of the conflict. Note the picture and caption underneath at top of article.
https://www.armyrecognition.com/defe..._increase.html


Regards,
Pat
:capt:

RC4 October 4th, 2020 01:00 PM

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https://twitter.com/i/status/1311925658247979008

RC4 October 4th, 2020 01:11 PM

Re: Caucasus War 2020 How-To-Guide
 
https://twitter.com/i/status/1312378543247110144

RC4 October 4th, 2020 01:17 PM

Re: Caucasus War 2020 How-To-Guide
 
https://twitter.com/i/status/1312313377696501763

RC4 October 4th, 2020 01:47 PM

Re: Caucasus War 2020 How-To-Guide
 
Very interesting video, showing lots of forces and equipment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lWr...re=emb_rel_end

RC4 October 4th, 2020 01:56 PM

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Before the war analisis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iA3_aTkr-H4

RC4 October 4th, 2020 02:32 PM

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Armenia ORBAT

SOF Reg
Signals Reg
Eng Reg
Aviation Reg
SAM Brigade
2 SAM Regs
3 Tank Bns
2 Arm Recon Bns
3 Art Regs

North Army Corps w/1 Brigade
Central Army Corps w/1 Brigade
Nogorno-Karabah Army Corps w/4 Brigades
Nacivan Facing Army Corps w/4 Brigades
Training Army Corps w/2 Brigades on mobilization

RC4 October 5th, 2020 06:42 AM

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Azerbaijan Weapons declared by SIPRI

100 T90S (Russia 2013-15)
259 T72M1 (1 Slovakia 2002)(45 Ukraine 2004-06)(60 Belarus 2005-06+93 in 2011-13)(60 Russia 2007)
(w/100 LAHAT ATGM Israel 2015-16)
150 T55 (Ukraine 1993-94)
23 BTS5B ARV (4 Ukraine 2007+19 2012-13)
118 BMP3M IFV (Russia 2013-15 w/1000 9M117 (AT10) Bastion ATGM)
18 2S31(BMP3) Vena 120mm SPM (Russia 2012-14)
24 9P157-2(BMP3) Khrizantema-S TD (Russia 2017-18 w/800 9M123 (AT15) (Russia 2017-18)
2 BMP1 IFV (Ukraine 2005)
76 BTR82A 8x8 IFV (Russia 2017-18)
70 BTR80A 8x8 IFV (Russia 2007-10)
3 BTR3U Guardian 8x8 IFV (Ukraine 2006)
18 BTR80 8x8 APC (Ukraine 2007)
150 BTR70 8x8 APC (Ukraine 2007-10)
85 Marauder 4x4 MRAP (25 South Africa 2009-11+30 2012+30 2013-15 w/assembly in Azerbaijan)
60 Matador 4x4 MRAP (25 South Africa 2010-11+35 2012-15 w/assembly in Azerbaijan)
100 SandCat 4x4 APV (Israel 2016-18)
10 SandCat Spike-LR 4x4 TD (Israel 2016 w/250 Spike-LR)
10 Sandcat SPEAR w/CARDOM 120mm 4x4 SPM (Israel 2018)
10 Sufa 4x4 APV (Israel 2009-10)
35 Cobra 4x4 APV (Turkey 2010-11)
37 Shorland 4x4 APV (Turkey 2010-2011)

4 LORA MRL (Israel 2018 w/50 LORA SSM)
6 Dolu-1, Leysan and Shimsek (Lynx) MRL (Israel 2006 w/50 EXTRA SSM)
30 BM9A52 Smerch MRL (12 Ukraine 2004-05)(18 Russia 2012-14)
36 TOS1 MRL (Russia 2013-17)
10 B200BM Polonez MRL (Belarus 2018-19)
20 300mm T300 MRL (Turkey 2015-16 w/108 TRG300 300mm Guided rocket from 2016)
40 122/300mm T122/300 MRL (Turkey 2012-14 w/108 TRG300 300mm Guided rocket from 2016)
30 122mm RM70 MRL (Czech 2017-18)
30 107mm T107 MRL (Turkey 2011-13)
15 203mm 2S7 Pion SPA (3 Ukraine 2008+3 Belarus 2008+9 in 2009)
5 155mm ATMOS2000 SPA (Israel 2010)
18 152mm 2A19 MSTA-S SPA (Russia 2012-14)
36 152mm DANA SPA (Slovakia 2017-18)
16 152mm 2S3 SPA (Ukraine 2009-10)
26 152mm 2A36 Giatsint-B (Belarus 2017)
36 130mm M46 (Bulgaria 2002)
54 122mm 2S1 SPA (Ukraine 2008-10)
85 122mm D30 (55 Ukraine 2007+30 Belarus 2010)
72 100mm MT12(2A19) ATG (Ukraine 2002)
2 S300PMU2 (SA20B) SAM (Russia 2011 w/200 48N6 (SA10) missiles)
2 9K37 Buk1MB SAM (Russia 2013-14 w/100 9M317 (SA17) Grizzly + 100 9M38 (SA11) missiles)
40 Barak-8 SAM (Israel 2016)
40 Barak-8ER SAM (Israel 2016)
1 Barak-LR SAM (Israel 2016)
200 SA24 Igla-S MANPADS (Russia 2012-13 w/1000 missiles)
18 SA14 Strela-3 MANPADS (Ukraine 2008)

85 M43 120mm Mortar (Ukraine 2005-06)
100 Spike-LR ATGM (Israel 2009-10)
100 AT14 Kornet ATGM (Russia 2009-10)

16 MiG29+MiG29UB (Ukraine 2006-11 w/10 SOM-B1 ASM (Turkey 2018-19))
17 Su25 Frogfoot (6 Georgia 2006)(11 Belarus 2009-12)
12 L39C Albatros (Ukraine 2006)
10 MFI17 Super Mushshak (Pakistan 2018)
24 Mi35M Hind (Russia 2011-14)
12 Mi24G Hind (Ukraine 2009-10 w/400 R2 missiles for Skif & Baryer Systems)
66 Mi8MT Hip (Russia 2010-15) (20 Border Guard+6 Police)
2 B412 (2018)

2 Hermes-900 UAV (Israel 2017-18)
10 Hermes-450 UAV (Israel 2011-13)
10 Orbiter-3 UAV (Israel 2016-17)
5 Heron UAV (Israel 2013)
5 Searcher UAV (Israel 2013)
14 Aerostar UAV (4 Israel 2008+10 2011-12) (production of components in Azerbaijan)
100 Orbiter-1K Loitering munition (Israel 2016-2019) (production in Azerbaijan as Zerba)
50 Harop Loitering munition (Israel 2015-16)
100 Skystriker Loitering munition (Israel 2018)

6 OPV62 FAC (Israel 2015-18)
6 Shaldag FAC (Israel 2014-15) (produced in Azerbaijan) (w/250 Spike-NLOS)
1 AB25 Patrol craft (Turkey 2000)

Thanks

RC4 October 5th, 2020 07:28 AM

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Armenian Weapons declared by SIPRI

1 T90S (Russia 2016)
84 T72 (Russia 1994-96)
50 BMP2 IFV (Russia 1995-96)
4 9P148(BRDM2) 4x4 TD (Russia 1995-96 w/9M14 (AT5) missiles)
10 Tigr 4x4 APV (Russia 2011)

4 9P78 Iskander SSM TEL (Russia 2016 w/25 Iskander SSM)
8 9P117/Scud-B TEL SSM (Russia 1996 w/24 R17 Elbrus SSMs)
6 BM9A52 Smerch MRL (Russia 2016-17)
4 273mm WM80 MRL (China 1999)
18 122mm BM21 Grad MRL (Russia 1995-96)
18 152mm D1 (Russia 1995-96)
18 152mm D20 (Russia 1995-96)
62 122mm D30 (36 Russia1995-96)(10 Belarus 2007)(16 Montenegro 2010)
2 S300PS(SA10B) SAM (Russia 2009-10 w/144 5V55U(SA10) missiles)
9 2K11(SA4) Krug SAM (Russia 1994 w/349 3M8M1(SA4) missiles)
2 SA15 Tor-M2KM SAM (Russia 2019 w/50 9M338(SA15) missiles)
4 Osa-AK(SA8B) SAM (Russia 2019 w/120 9M33(SA8) missiles)
40 9M33 Osa(SA8 Gecko) SAM (Russia 1993-94)
40 SA18 Igla MANPADS (Russia 1995-96 w/200 missiles)
400 missiles SA24 Igla-S MANPADS (200 Russia 2013+200 2016)
200 SA25 Verba MANPADS (Russia 2016-17)

100 AT14 Kornet-E ATGM (Russia 2017)
945 9M111(AT4) Fagot ATGM (Russia 1993-96)

4 Su30SM (Russia 2019)
9 Su25K+1 Su25UBK (Slovalia 2004)
6 L39C Albatros (2 Ukraine 2004+4 2010-11)
2 Il-76M (Russia 2004)

Thanks

RC4 October 5th, 2020 10:15 AM

Re: Caucasus War 2020 How-To-Guide
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nW-F...ature=emb_logo

RC4 October 5th, 2020 10:28 AM

Re: Caucasus War 2020 How-To-Guide
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zj7H...ature=emb_logo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXil...ature=emb_logo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kr2_...ature=emb_logo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5Fi...ature=emb_logo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfA5...ature=emb_logo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sGg...ature=emb_logo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XGa...ature=emb_logo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFpP...ature=emb_logo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fxkx...ature=emb_logo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAhs...ature=emb_logo

Aeraaa October 5th, 2020 05:46 PM

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One thing is for sure, Azeris use montage a lot in their released videos. Which tells something.

MarkSheppard October 5th, 2020 06:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Aeraaa (Post 848661)
One thing is for sure, Azeris use montage a lot in their released videos. Which tells something.

They're basically doing "Desert Storm" -- we only get to see the stuff that hits, not the stuff that dies on the way down, hits the wrong target, etc.

Karagin October 5th, 2020 07:14 PM

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Makes sense.

Aeraaa October 6th, 2020 04:05 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkSheppard (Post 848663)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aeraaa (Post 848661)
One thing is for sure, Azeris use montage a lot in their released videos. Which tells something.

They're basically doing "Desert Storm" -- we only get to see the stuff that hits, not the stuff that dies on the way down, hits the wrong target, etc.

Problem is, most of the time we don't even see the kills. The video switches on another footage the moment the explosion occurs. How can we judge if the hit was actually a kill?

That is why I'm telling it's highly suspicious.

DRG October 6th, 2020 07:47 AM

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What's reported and what is shown has, and always will be, what whoever is reporting it or showing it wants you to see.

"There are lies, damn lies and Statistics"......add to that video footage and reporting bias add to that the advances in CGI and EVERYTHING is potentially "fake news"

MarkSheppard October 6th, 2020 08:59 PM

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Another thing to consider is that apparently the Azeris stopped showing these things for about a day or so (don't know if they resumed them yet).

Speculation on the cessation of drone videos is:

1.) They ran out of them temporarily -- plausible; especially since Canada slapped export bans onto a digital camera made in Canada that's used in some drones.

2.) Bad Weather prevented drones from being used -- also plausible; since you're not going to put a very nice camera on an expendable drone.

MarkSheppard October 6th, 2020 09:03 PM

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Armenian T-72A captured by Azeris:

https://i.postimg.cc/85qNxzSM/14262-...D741-BBCFF.jpg

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Captured Armenian T-72B and T-72AV tanks:

https://i.postimg.cc/SRQQYd4N/4-A6-F...1083-A46-B.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/1tr5zTLj/61-E70...AD1-F18-BE.jpg

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Destroyed Azeri T-90:

https://i.postimg.cc/GmDNQzBz/9-EB79...AE29-C5-D4.jpg

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US Related news and commentary related to this conflict

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US Army killing it's Asymmetric Warfare Group

Quote:

For nearly 15 years a little known but highly influential Army group has been in the middle of how the Army learns immediate lessons from combat, adapts to the evolving battlefield and saves soldiers' lives.

It’s called Asymmetric Warfare Group, and the Army is shutting it down next year.

The Army made its official announcement today that by mid-2021, AWG will be discontinued.

An Army statement to Army Times:

“The functions of AWG, including the solutions to current and emerging threats, will transition to other Army organizations. Also, to ensure the utility of the organization’s work over the past 14 years is not lost, all lessons learned will be maintained by the U.S. Army Combined Arms Center (CAC), via the Center for Army Lessons Learned (CALL), Centers of Excellence (COEs), and other TRADOC enterprise stakeholders.”
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https://i1.wp.com/militaryleak.com/w...ht-delay-1.jpg

General Dynamics Land Systems (GDLS), a business unit of General Dynamics, was awarded a $1.219 billion contract to produce, test and deliver Interim Maneuver Short-Range Air Defense (IM-SHORAD) systems to the U.S. Army. The Army’s initial order on the contract calls for 28 Stryker IM-SHORAD vehicles for $230 million.

The Stryker A1 IM-SHORAD provides short-range air defense against unmanned aerial systems and fixed-wing and rotary-wing threats. Its armament includes Longbow Hellfire missiles, Stinger missiles and a 30mm cannon.

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From 2018, the initial selection:

LINK

https://www.armytimes.com/resizer/LZ...FXV6PQ2KUM.jpg

Quote:

WASHINGTON — The U.S. Army’s interim short-range air defense system, which will urgently fill a capability gap identified a few years ago in the European theater, has crystallized.

The Army had already decided the Interim Maneuver-Short-Range Air Defense system would be developed around its Stryker combat vehicle, but it has now chosen Leonardo DRS to supply a mission equipment package that will include Raytheon’s Stinger vehicle missile launcher, according to Col. Chuck Worshim, program manager for cruise missile defense systems with the Army’s Program Executive Office Missiles and Space, who spoke to Defense News on June 28.

RC4 October 8th, 2020 03:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkSheppard (Post 848679)
Armenian T-72A captured by Azeris:

https://i.postimg.cc/85qNxzSM/14262-...D741-BBCFF.jpg

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Captured Armenian T-72B and T-72AV tanks:

https://i.postimg.cc/SRQQYd4N/4-A6-F...1083-A46-B.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/1tr5zTLj/61-E70...AD1-F18-BE.jpg

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Destroyed Azeri T-90:

https://i.postimg.cc/GmDNQzBz/9-EB79...AE29-C5-D4.jpg

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US Related news and commentary related to this conflict

-------------------

US Army killing it's Asymmetric Warfare Group

Quote:

For nearly 15 years a little known but highly influential Army group has been in the middle of how the Army learns immediate lessons from combat, adapts to the evolving battlefield and saves soldiers' lives.

It’s called Asymmetric Warfare Group, and the Army is shutting it down next year.

The Army made its official announcement today that by mid-2021, AWG will be discontinued.

An Army statement to Army Times:

“The functions of AWG, including the solutions to current and emerging threats, will transition to other Army organizations. Also, to ensure the utility of the organization’s work over the past 14 years is not lost, all lessons learned will be maintained by the U.S. Army Combined Arms Center (CAC), via the Center for Army Lessons Learned (CALL), Centers of Excellence (COEs), and other TRADOC enterprise stakeholders.”
------------

https://i1.wp.com/militaryleak.com/w...ht-delay-1.jpg

General Dynamics Land Systems (GDLS), a business unit of General Dynamics, was awarded a $1.219 billion contract to produce, test and deliver Interim Maneuver Short-Range Air Defense (IM-SHORAD) systems to the U.S. Army. The Army’s initial order on the contract calls for 28 Stryker IM-SHORAD vehicles for $230 million.

The Stryker A1 IM-SHORAD provides short-range air defense against unmanned aerial systems and fixed-wing and rotary-wing threats. Its armament includes Longbow Hellfire missiles, Stinger missiles and a 30mm cannon.

------

From 2018, the initial selection:

LINK

https://www.armytimes.com/resizer/LZ...FXV6PQ2KUM.jpg

Quote:

WASHINGTON — The U.S. Army’s interim short-range air defense system, which will urgently fill a capability gap identified a few years ago in the European theater, has crystallized.

The Army had already decided the Interim Maneuver-Short-Range Air Defense system would be developed around its Stryker combat vehicle, but it has now chosen Leonardo DRS to supply a mission equipment package that will include Raytheon’s Stinger vehicle missile launcher, according to Col. Chuck Worshim, program manager for cruise missile defense systems with the Army’s Program Executive Office Missiles and Space, who spoke to Defense News on June 28.

The link below is a good analisys of the losses
https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2020/0...-karabakh.html

RC4 October 8th, 2020 03:56 PM

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Cowards attacking civilians
https://twitter.com/i/status/1313585504647106560

RC4 October 8th, 2020 03:58 PM

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For those o say there are no confirmed losses
https://twitter.com/i/status/1310182693301301248

RC4 October 8th, 2020 04:03 PM

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Good video showing Azerbaijan equipment "Propaganda War"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=on5g...ature=emb_logo

RC4 October 8th, 2020 04:14 PM

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Azeri forces showing liberated territory, good for map-building if someone wants to replicate this battles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Mis...ature=emb_logo

RC4 October 8th, 2020 04:20 PM

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Azeris showing a captured Artillery position
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee8w...ature=emb_logo

RC4 October 8th, 2020 04:39 PM

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Holy GOD, Armenian Shilka killing a Azeri Su25
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlUa...ature=emb_logo

RC4 October 8th, 2020 04:42 PM

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Armenian abandoned military convoy
https://twitter.com/i/status/1313854826854453248

RC4 October 8th, 2020 04:55 PM

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Azeri T90s at 6,90
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbbQ...ature=emb_logo

RC4 October 8th, 2020 04:57 PM

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Captured Armenian Tanks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gRz...ature=emb_logo

Aeraaa October 9th, 2020 06:16 AM

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Wow, I can even recognize video games being used in some "combat" footage. In particular, the Su-25 vs. Shilka duel which comes from DCS.

scorpio_rocks October 9th, 2020 07:20 AM

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Definitely fake shilka! (doesnt sound like that - slower firing, and doesnt have that much ammo)

RC4 October 10th, 2020 10:21 AM

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Yes, you are right, Azerbaijan fastly said its fake. Noise is from as Gatling gun
Thanks

RC4 October 10th, 2020 11:01 AM

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Good visuals on Captured equipment by the Azeri
https://twitter.com/i/status/1314216109017493504

RC4 October 10th, 2020 11:05 AM

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Armenian dead (its part of the war)
https://twitter.com/i/status/1314256426336952326
https://twitter.com/i/status/1314259225212866560

RC4 October 10th, 2020 11:08 AM

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Captured ex.Armenian equip getting a new owner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwQO...ature=emb_logo

RC4 October 10th, 2020 11:14 AM

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More
https://twitter.com/i/status/1314537942195544066
https://twitter.com/i/status/1314195035609591810


This seems an attack on an abandoned column
https://twitter.com/i/status/1314507437043576832

RC4 October 10th, 2020 11:19 AM

Re: Caucasus War 2020 How-To-Guide
 
Tell me its fake
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqRI...ature=emb_logo

MarkSheppard November 9th, 2020 08:08 PM

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President of #Artsakh has released a statement confirming that an agreement has been made on ending the war at 0100 local.

All sides will accept the ceasefire regime starting from 00.00 Moscow time on November 10,2020.

turkish and russian peacekeepers will be deployed


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