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The big difference is that unlike in the West, where you can tell that the M60-120S (put Abrams turret on M60 hull) is a private venture, nobody is quite sure who is sponsoring what until it appears in quantity in Peoples Liberation Army service. Let's go to Chinese Wikipedia: https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZBD-05...88%98%E8%BD%A6 Quote:
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ZBD-05 Amphibious IFV ZTD-05 Amphibious Assault Vehicle (aka amphibious light tank) These designations (ZBD/ZTD/etc) date back to 1987, when the PLA General Staff issued "Regulations on the Naming of Weapons and Equipment of the Armed Forces" 《全军武器装备命名规定》, which changed things from the old "Type XX" series; in which "Type 56" in small arms meant: Type 56 7.62 mm semi-automatic rifles Type 56 7.62 mm submachine guns Type 56 7.62 mm light machine guns The new 1987-onwards designations are generally revealed only after an item has entered service, because the designations themselves tell you exactly what the item is. Back to the ZBD-05: Quote:
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1.) NORINCO based on some prototypes or drawings, in mid-2000 submits a proposal for a modern amphibious vehicle family. 2.) The PLA General Staff approves development of the amphibious vehicle family in December 2003. 3.) The Amphibious vehicle family is type classified and adopted officially by the PLA in 2005. 4.) It doesn't get publicly revealed to the world (officially) until the October 1, 2009 parade. |
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In subject of tanks I d'like to add about polish modernisation of old T-72 from storages usually M1 variant
This new tank after rebuilding is called T-72M1R So what is that. In geostrategical context Poland now need many tanks and fast. That is why army give local industry a green light to modernization of older models usually T-72M1 from storages build in 70s/80s They are already in use since 2020 by 18th Mechanized Division https://www.wojsko-polskie.pl/18dz/a...erwsze-strzay/ What was modernised in T-72M1R?
In case of armour none was added so that is still T-72M1 but with better optics/electronics and reliability and communication. https://milmag.pl/2021/wp-content/up...pard2pl_01.jpg https://www.defence24.pl/upload/2021...72M1R19bz2.jpg https://www.defence24.pl/upload/2021...72M1R19bz6.jpg Text about this tank https://en.topwar.ru/180612-moderniz...i-t-72m1r.html A description of future vehicles now considered by Polish Army T-72M1R is also there https://www.steelbeasts.com/topic/10...ge/6/#comments |
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https://bydgoszcz.wyborcza.pl/bydgos...Redirects=true
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That's true first time T-72M1R were delivered in December 2019
There also exist T-72R which is older model modernised with the same parts.[ (I'm not certain about this) https://translate.google.com/transla...kazane-wojsku/ Manufacturer Bumar Łabedy S.A official press note https://www.bumar.gliwice.pl/news/zm...rly-do-lublina Here some additional articles https://translate.google.com/transla...idoczne-zmiany That's true they are another critical articles that changes are too small. I suppose that this that is fast and dirty modernisation which is result that situation in Europe is deteriorating. https://translate.google.com/transla...-zbrojeniowki/ https://translate.google.com/transla...jsk-pancernych |
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Found this year old article while digging around for a decent photo
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Here is famous basket :) biggest visible mod https://i.imgur.com/niz9UKh.jpg Here are photos of T-72M1R from Field deploy http://www.polska-zbrojna.pl/home/ar...h-czolgow-T72# https://zbrojni.blob.core.windows.ne...2/Images/76987 Here is official military data about this tank also in English https://1.bp.blogspot.com/--JiaPyksA...20/jlzkVsq.jpg And nice photos of interiors of T-71M1R with focus on modernised devices they are on photos https://thedeaddistrict.blogspot.com...lish-army.html And info with photos about new modernized tanks for army https://translate.google.com/transla...-ida-do-wojska In this last article is photo and description that Bumar modernizing also WZT-2 & WZT-3 recovery tanks to standard WZT-2M & WZT3M don't know what is a spectrum of this modernisation but maeaby is similar to this devices which we have in T-72M1R WZT-3M https://www.defence24.pl/upload/2021...2o15.31.21.png |
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Found also data about optoelectronics devices from
PCO (Przemysłowe Centrum Optyki - Industrial Optics Center) Their products https://pcosa.com.pl/en/home/ POD Liswarta https://pcosa.com.pl/en/pod-72-liswarta-2/ PNK Radomka https://pcosa.com.pl/en/pnk-55-72-ra...ion-periscope/ Thermal Periscopes https://pcosa.com.pl/en/modernisatio...ured-vehicles/ KLW-1 Asteria https://pcosa.com.pl/en/klw-1-asteria-thermal-camera/ |
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BTW niece photos of PT-91M Pendekar Malaysian model of polish PT-91 Twardy on proving ground.
https://thedeaddistrict.blogspot.com...&by-date=false https://1.bp.blogspot.com/--8wwh30Hs...01828176_o.jpg This photos is a proof that Malaysian has also an engineering mine clearing devices for their MBT look on first tank on photo. Don't know if that is Polish or Russian made device but probably they are interchangeable between t-72 family https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-FashRJ4xI...96638405_o.jpg |
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There is also more about this modern ammunition for T-72/PT-91 called 120x570mm APFSDS https://www.steelbeasts.com/topic/10...comment=212028 https://i.imgur.com/DndcfZq.jpg |
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I'm thinking there's a fair shot we'll see these upgraded Krauss-Maffei Wegmann (KMW) Leopard 1A5BR tanks before games end based on this newer article from the one I posted around a month or two ago. This upgrade program is part of a longer term initiative to strategically
upgrade their armor between 2020-2039. This current program is meant to extend the operating life of the Leopard 1A5BR by 15 years. We now also have a better picture in regards to the extent of the planned upgrades along with a couple optional ones which I feel will be made considering the "neighborhood" they're in. What I don't know is will they seek a new tank from outside the country which are what the "rumors" say will happen or develop their own tanks like they did with the following below. They know how to do it but, what killed the programs were time in development, no export orders and most importantly cheaper foreign tanks. Both the TAMOYO and OSORIO never got past the PROTOTYPE Stage. https://www.janes.com/defence-news/n...ard-1a5br-mbts http://www.military-today.com/tanks/mb3_tamoyo.htm http://www.military-today.com/tanks/osorio.htm For you Vietnam Vets, 2 days until I catch "The Freedom Bird"!! Though I concede the fact your I'm sure felt better. Regards, Pat :capt: |
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