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https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...les-to-ukraine
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http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product4355.html NOTE "army guide" uses both 501 and 502 as a description Quote:
And the Ukrainians replaced the entire turret on theirs it's unclear if that conversion will be made with these 501's ( guessing not at this time ) ALL WE CAN DO IS GUESS AT THIS POINT IN TIME further info Quote:
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Sorry I was off a minute too late. I just reviewed the following from the same full broadcast (w/0 commercials.), it's there just noted wrong time.
I would "que up" just before the 5m mark and just let it run until it shows up ~16s (GET AT THE READY!) later and have your finger on the "trigger" to hit the "pause button" before that-it's not much you're going to get. https://www.cbs.com/shows/cbs_evenin...-april-4-2022/ For everyone else Don has "my guess" on the tank, just seeking UNBIASED answers. I gotta get ready for work! Regards, Pat :capt: JUST CHECKED IT'S THERE!! GOTTA GO!! |
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You mean this one ?
https://forum.shrapnelgames.com/atta...1&d=1649180195 The side skirts are a little different but I don't think it's anything "new" |
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Don,
Now that you were nice enough to "blow up" that portion of the tank I was wondering about, I can definitely say that's not the T-90MS/M I thought was a possibility. They say they're there, I've yet to see one in video or pictures. First ones were supposed to go to the eastern military district but Russian version might not be fielded yet. The three main tanks expected to serve in the Russian Army they are the T-72B3M (Our T-72B3/4 is the same tank.) tanks with the domestic sighting and observation system, T-90M Proryv-3 (Again have seen this as the T-90MS not to be confused with the export version. Yeah, my heads spinning to.) and T-80BVM tanks. Taken from the Updates in light of Ukraine war Thread these should be here as well. Don put this in Post 100 of the above thread. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2doYYblaLFU I would follow up with the companion "book" version of the same video (And website.) in Post 101 of the above thread. https://tankrecognition.blogspot.com...cognition.html My thinking easier to look here then pausing that well done video. Finally, the following comes from modelers as I also had in the same above thread in Post 91. I will preface the following remarks first my very general observation of a biased opinion that their information isn't a viable source in here from some. I as having been a modeler of historical military equipment and of course race cars:cool: , would disagree with that notion. Generally speaking and the following demonstrates this, we tended to very detailed orientated with a deep sense of history that surrounded the model. It's not the stuff of kids when I first building them in my youth. The deeper appreciation came as a young adult. Just wanted to get that out there. I did appreciate the following work, especially after looking at it, VOLIA, THERE IT WAS IN PICTURES AND VIDEO ON MY SOURCES FOR THE NEWS. I hope you'll give it a chance because the CAMO is right and it's a good read as well. https://www.migjimenez.com/img/cms/P...Colors_ENG.pdf I'm off to get some much needed sleep. Don we could REALLY use a Rip Van Winkle EMO-G-MO!?! Good Night Everyone! Regards, Pat :capt: |
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Yes, I saw that.#3 is already applied to the Ukrainian OOB https://forum.shrapnelgames.com/atta...1&d=1649227730 |
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Yes but the big question is that a "USA" ready Sep 3 or something a bit less than that ?
For now, I will assume until more info is available that it's closer to what we have as a Sep 2 The suggestion was they could start showing up this year but the whole deal would take 2 years |
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See the source and date. The quote below I've already posted from another source (Janes or Army REC.) about the beginning of last month. SEP 22 if planned for FOC is too soon based on the below if I followed your last post correctly.
Para 2: Is the "Shopping List". Note: "Proposed Sale/Potential Sale" throughout. "Implementation of this proposed sale will require approximately (22) U.S. Government and (52) U.S. contractor representatives to travel to Poland for a duration of up to five years to support equipment fielding and training. " https://www.dsca.mil/press-media/maj...in-battle-tank We don't just have these tanks lying around, they will have to completely RESET with DU/and any other classified armor on ours along and not limited to the following subsystems such FCS, GPS (We use our own military specific system which I still can't discuss.), Stabilizer, Vision, Comms etc. For instance, TI/GSR 50 for BOTH the Polish and Taiwanese M1A2T as one example based on them choosing to buy an earlier GEN system from us or installing their own. I see the Polish tanks at least 2 years out to FOC minimum, I'd rather be wrong once than finding ourselves chasing FOC dates again over and over again. Let's not let expectations get ahead of good common sense. I gotta got ready for work. Just got this after logging off. Forget about my 2 years MAYBE... "The tanks are expected to be delivered to Poland by 2026 and will be deployed in eastern Poland to deter Russia." FROM https://www.janes.com/defence-news/n...1a2-sepv3-mbts Regards, Pat :capt: |
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