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BigJMoney April 26th, 2007 08:33 PM

Nominate your \"Tiny Tim\" spell here!
 
Hey folks, to steal some of the fire from the Vanheim/Helheim thread and, more honestly, to get people discussing some newer items that could be useful for the game, please nominate your "Tiny Tim" Dominions 3 spell and why. I say "Tiny Tim" because you are looking to name one spell in the game you think gets overlooked because it just seems a little too weak to be effective. The top ten nominees will be added to a poll and voted upon later. I'm hoping that modders et al will take note and consider giving the "bite sized" spell as much of a facelift as they possibly can. This may be by means other than simply modifying the spell (which I don't even think is possible).

[img]/threads/images/Graemlins/PointRight.gif[/img]Rule: Refrain from commenting upon others' nominations unless you are correcting a misstated fact!

[img]/threads/images/Graemlins/PointRight.gif[/img]Rule: You must explain why. It is pointless to nominate a spell without a "why"!

My nomination: Healing Touch. This spell is underpowered because it can almost never be used. By the time your troops are injured, they're on the front lines, and your mage having been set to "cast" can't even get to the front lines. For such rare magic, it doesn't really impress! Further, this spell won't ever get used because the one saving grace of touch spells doesn't apply to it: assassination/arena. You can't heal yourself with it!

<font color="blue"> The list thus far: (spells listed with reasons given by the person believing why they aren't useful enough)</font>
Healing Touch
"Will never get used"
Howl
"Summons flee too quickly"
Crumble
"Troops better for relative cost"
Dragon Master
"Far too much effort (research, gems, mage requirements); AI never uses it"
Spirit Curse
"Better options"
Bleed
"Doesn't do anything noticable"
Corpse Man
"Not worth the cost"
Stellar Focus
"Being global spell is too high an investment requirement"
Touch of Madness
"Can get you killed"
Raven Feast
"Tiny Rewards; corpses better intact"
Flare
"Its window of usefulness is too small"
<font color="red"> If I misunderstood anything, please correct me.</font>

These spells were named, but no reason was given. They cannot be nominated until there is some discussion:
Stream of Life
Harm
Leeching Touch
Hell Power
Astral Projection
Call Eater of Dead
Hand of Dust

=$= Big J Money =$=

Sombre April 26th, 2007 09:12 PM

Re: Nominate the most useless spell here!
 
Dragon master?

Any spell involving the word 'touch'.

Foodstamp April 26th, 2007 09:33 PM

Re: Nominate the most useless spell here!
 
Dragon Master

NTJedi April 26th, 2007 09:39 PM

Re: Nominate the most useless spell here!
 

Howl = 2 nature gems and 2 nature path
the wolves flee very quickly

Velusion April 26th, 2007 09:53 PM

Re: Nominate the most useless spell here!
 
I'll second any of the lower level touch attack spells as well. If you are close enough to touch an attacker the mage should be running not trying to annoy his attacker.

I wouldn't mind some uber-cool higher level touch spells though for when you your mage is buffed up... like a touch enslave that costs no fatige...

Gandalf Parker April 26th, 2007 10:08 PM

Re: Nominate the most useless spell here!
 
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Tyrant April 26th, 2007 10:17 PM

Re: Nominate the most useless spell here!
 
Astral Projection

Micah April 26th, 2007 10:18 PM

Re: Nominate the most useless spell here!
 
Seconded on touch spells, although fists of iron isn't too horrible.

I'm gonna throw up Crumble for nomination though, 20 earth gems, it doesn't do much of anything to the units inside, it requires a powerful mage at earth 5, and probably worst of all if your siege force isn't hurting the walls to begin with crumble won't let you storm the castle, since it happens before the defenders repair the walls, so they get the gate closed before you can issue orders. I think you'd be better off alching those earth gems and buying 200 gold worth of troops, at least those are reusable for the next fort.

VedalkenBear April 26th, 2007 10:18 PM

Re: Nominate the most useless spell here!
 
90% of the Blood Magic combat spells. I think you can count off the nonawful ones on one hand.

MaxWilson April 26th, 2007 11:09 PM

Re: Nominate the [funniest] spell here!
 
Um, okay. I was going to come up with something, but on reflection I agree with Gandalf. So instead I nominate Polymorph as the funniest spell. The description made me laugh out loud.

-Max


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