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Re: Updates in light of Ukraine war
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Any one of those or all three. Shora ( VRRS ) (it would appear) needs to pick up the targetting laser for the missle. If it doesn't have one and it would appear it's not being fired towards the direction the turret sensors are pointed it's not going to deploy ARENA (it would appear)............"uses a multi-function Doppler radar, which can be turned on and off by the tank commander. In conjunction with radar input, a digital computer scans an arc around the tank for threat" So it has to be turned on and it "scans an arc around the tank" an "arc" does not suggest 360 degrees The bottom line here is there is much we don't know because those that do know aren't revealing the strengths and weaknesses of the systems What we do appear to "know" that in the past month if it's on and working it doesn't seem to be doing anything . Certainly the growing piles of burnt out scrap steel would suggest this but again....... it's not a "fair judgement" of a systems performance if they are not installed as SEEMS to be the case The final bottom line is we can only simulate these systems in a limited way. The game does not differentiate between targeting systems and in the case of Shora many "modern" targeting systems do not use laser and the sytem ( that we know about ) seems to rely on that There have been adjustments made to both the availability of these systems based on what APPEARS to be the case in 2022 and their effectiveness in detecting and defeating ATGM but it won't be perfect because it can never be perfect |
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I wonder how that deal is panning out.......
https://militaryleak.com/2020/06/28/...n-battle-tank/ |
Re: Updates in light of Ukraine war
Not entirely sure what happened with this battle, but...wow?
https://twitter.com/Arslon_Xudosi/st...CURK9OqfBF1vsg |
Re: Updates in light of Ukraine war
^Well, it's heavily edited, but at I see at least 2 BTRs totalled and prob a T72 damaged. The Ukrainian tank basically ambushed the Russian convoy from close range.
I'm sure I did have an encounter just like that in one of the scenarios/quickbattles in MBT. |
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The drone footage from this war has been particularly informative. The "ID tags" was a nice touch
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Just a follow up on this it may not be true in all cases but it appears from recent photos I have seen that the Ukrainian Regulars tend towards blue and the Territorial units tend towards yellow but it is not always 100% clear who's reg and who's militia though the regs seem better outfitted and I have seen blue and yellow together on the same armband |
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Seen the Stugna-P ATGM kill of a stationary hovering KA-52 yet?
Note how they put the cursor near the Ka-52, but keep it off the helo until about 3 seconds before impact, to avoid setting off laser warning sensors on the helicopter? |
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Post #110 above Yes. I wondered about that when I saw the video. That system has a manual and a fire-and-forget mode. Fire-and-forget provides automatic control of the missile flight using a targeting laser beam that does not require manual tracking of the target. I may be wrong but in that case, it looked like they may have been using manual mode |
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Scary how easy it is to fool the system. Good scary in this case, but still.
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