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I found this tidbit regarding when Gliders disappeared from US airborne units by...researching Russian Airborne Forces -- the following is google translated from a Russian internet forum:
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That would be when the helicopter was starting to see more use in Korea and may saw it as the answer to all airborne operations.
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--- 1.) You no longer need to keep a huge Transport fleet around to carry gliders – D-Day utilized around 800 x C-47s. 2.) Unlike gliders, helicopters can be reused after landing in the drop zone. They can be used for local liaison/observation/transport tasks in the drop zone. 3.) Tying into #2, unlike gliders, you simply fuel up helicopters and fly them away, as opposed to mounting a large recovery and repair operation that consumes a large amount of manpower. 4.) The short range of piston-powered helicopters (200 miles or less) is not an issue; since gliders are limited to only 1.15 to 1.5 hours in the air due to pilot fatigue (gliders were unpowered, with no power boost for the controls); which at the top tow speed of around 120 MPH for a CG-4, is 138-180 miles. |
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The point about the gliders being a one-use item until recovered and repaired is in some ways the same for helicopters. Any damage taken while trying to land or take off from a hot LZ means you are out that craft, even if they do get away it's going to be days to weeks before it's back in the fight. So the trade comes down to the idea of re-use and the fact that the same vehicle can do both drop and recovery. Like everything else there are trade-offs and the biggest one is weight and carry. Not every helicopter can carry heavy weapons as well as have the fuel to return, whereas a glider can carry and it's already known it's a one-way trip. I have seen older reports of mixing all three ideas together, use the transports to drop the airborne and gliders into the area and then helicopters to support and evac wounded or bring in reinforcement at critical areas until ground forces linked up. Nothing ever went with this because like all things post-WW2 and Korea, budget cuts and new wonder hight tech toys were seen as the future, and the old silliness leftover from THE WAR was well outdated and didn't work. Recall all the cool pictures of a single man flying hover platforms and similar items. Also here in the last six months, the Navy has been back to playing with jump packs aka jet packs for SEALS and Marines to board ships, etc...so old is new again keeps coming along. Imagine a glider built with composites and better materials we have today and a bit of that magical stealth technology tossed... |
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Helicopters were seen under both lights, cool and new and expensive. Then came Vietnam and things changed overnight, lots of ideas got tested and all ended up dropped or mixed into the doctrine we saw from the mid-70s to currently. Same with Airborne operations, everyone in the Airborne Corps in the US from private to General wants another D-DAY or Market Garden where airborne forces will win the day in glory, etc...and yet warfare has changed too fast for that to happen again. Yes, the current think is dropping them in to gain strategic targets that can be used by following troops, but they are still light infantry with limited weapons and limited armor. Not saying gliders would fix the issue, but at the same time helicopters aren't the save technological winner either. Let me know when we have a dropship that puts an entire tank battalion on the ground with the same impact as an airborne landing... |
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I can see uses for parachute infantry, glider weapons/light vehicle/supply carriers, and helo transport.
I don't see another "Market Garden" or anything similar. Smaller scale operations to seize key objectives or create a blocking position yes. During Desert Storm they set up an advance helicopter support base to support the operations of the 7th Corps in it's "End Run". It seems to me this sort of operations is perfect for air/heloborne forces. Had the objective been occupied AND lightly defended a parachute landing with glider/helo follow up could seize it for future use. |
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