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Sea_Dog March 13th, 2011 10:11 AM

Murdering Winter
 
Hello!

I have a question about the Murdering Winter. First, here is the description found on pg. 215 of the manual:

"This is a long-ranged cold attack on an enemy army in a distant province. The strength of the attack is 7 armor-negating points + 2 x the province's cold scale. This spell will never kill more
than half of an enemy army, as at least half of the army is out of camp at a given time, and this spell attacks the camp."

My question is, is the damage dealt from this attack cold damage or normal? Should I assume that because the attack is cold that the damage dealt is also cold-based?

I ask because my opponent has several troops with 100% cold resistance. The description makes me think that the damage is normal though you would think it would be cold-based.

Any help here is appreciated. Just looking for a confirmation. Thx.



Sea_Dog

Soyweiser March 13th, 2011 11:01 AM

Re: Murdering Winter
 
I think it is cold based. Dunno for sure. But most water spells are cold, and most fire spells are fire.

llamabeast March 14th, 2011 07:59 AM

Re: Murdering Winter
 
I'd say it's almost certainly cold based.

PriestyMan March 14th, 2011 04:45 PM

Re: Murdering Winter
 
it is. cast it on undead to test it. it will kill none of them. flames from the sky though, murders undead

Immaculate January 8th, 2012 02:26 PM

Re: Murdering Winter
 
Does this sort of spell work on units hiding in castles?

What about if i have a besieging army, can i use it on the castle and my units not be affected?

If i cast wolven winter in the same turn, what order are the spells processed in?

Thanks.

llamabeast January 9th, 2012 07:58 AM

Re: Murdering Winter
 
You can cast it on castles, it won't affect your sieging troops, and the spell order is random.

JonBrave January 9th, 2012 05:56 PM

Re: Murdering Winter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by llamabeast (Post 792257)
and the spell order is random.

You have an equal chance of Wolven Winter being cast before Murdering Winter or after it. However, spell casting order most certainly is not random! :)

thejeff January 9th, 2012 06:16 PM

Re: Murdering Winter
 
It is randomly either in caster ID order or reverse ID order, which is effectively random for most purposes. There are ways to abuse this, of course.

Olm January 11th, 2012 06:01 AM

Re: Murdering Winter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thejeff (Post 792291)
There are ways to abuse this, of course.

As casting 2 wolven winters and the murdering winter in between.
btw. do wolven winters stack? Can i change heat 3 to cold 3 by two wolven winters?
And another question: Is murdering winter affected by season? As being most effective in winter?

Soyweiser January 11th, 2012 11:49 AM

Re: Murdering Winter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Olm (Post 792354)
btw. do wolven winters stack? Can i change heat 3 to cold 3 by two wolven winters?
And another question: Is murdering winter affected by season? As being most effective in winter?

- The scales effects of spells stack.
- Nope, murdering winter is affected by scales, not the time of winter. (iirc). Of course, it is just a little bit more effective if old units get diseases/never healing wounds, on the same turn as you cast murdering winter. But that is only marginal, and not something you should ever try to use.


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