Land Rand - Jotunheim Wins!
 

Hello:

This is the thread for a new RAND game, where all nations will be land nations. I hereby dub the game “LAND RAND”. This is a PBEM game that I will host. (It is not a Llamaserver game, although the L.S. is very cool.)

RAND means:

1. Randomly assigned nations

2. Anonymous (players do not know who is playing what nation and must keep their identity secret until their candles have been snuffed)

3. No Diplomacy (no communications between players of the substance of the game; no trading of gems, gold or items; no in game or out of game messages, etc.)


The settings:

Era: Middle
Mods: Conceptual Balance 1.6
Number of players: 18
Map: GreeceStain
Victory Condition: Victory points in each capital. Need 9 out of 18 to win.
Research: Standard
Indies: 7
Magic sites/Gold/Resources: Standard
Graphs: On
Renaming: Off

Players so far:

Aethyr = Agartha (Dead turn 20)
Atul = Pan
Calahan = Ulm (Dead turn 30)
Jurri = Bandar Log
Lingchih = Arco (gone AI turn 60)
Lolomo = Eriu
Meglobob = C'tis
Micah = Jotunheim
MscFish; Replaced by BandC = Caelum
Namad; Replaced by Folket = Man (Dead turn 32)
Omnirizon = Pythium (Gone AI turn 39)
Quantum Mechani; Replaced by Alpine Joe Turn 41 = Tien Chi
Squirrelloid = Ermor
Trumanator = Vanheim (Gone AI turn 41)
Wokeye = Shinuyama (Gone AI turn 31)
Wraithlord = Machaka (Dead turn 63)
Ygorl = Ashdod (Dead turn 59)
Zeldor = Mictlan

Thanks to all players!

Pasha

Re: LAND RAND (PBEM) - one slot open
 

Ummm, I don't know if I'd be considered experienced enough, but I'd love to join.

Re: LAND RAND (PBEM) - one slot open
 

Welcome, Trumanator.

Prepare thyself for RANDomization! (Please send me your email.)

Pasha

Re: Land Rand (pbem) - Full
 

Hello:

The player list is set.

The nation assignments have been sent out. Be sure to keep your nation ID a secret until (and if) your candles are fully snuffed.

Please include "LAND RAND" in the subject line of all emails to me about the game so that I can use a filter to sort them easily.

Thank you.

Pasha

Re: Land Rand (pbem) - Full
 

Wonderful!

Thank you for your organization & hard work,Pasha.

:)

Re: Land Rand (pbem) - Full
 

I didn't know I volunteered, but well, I can't skip Pasha's games :)

Re: Land Rand (pbem) - Full
 

BTW, Ashdod is of course banned?

Re: Land Rand (pbem) - Full
 

Only water nations are banned.

Re: Land Rand (pbem) - Full
 

The map making is going well. Some players requested that the map be fairly snug (no more than 10 provinces per player). The map will have 199 provinces with 18 preset randomly-assigned, land-based starting positions. There are about 18 water provinces. So, there will be approximately 10 land provinces per player. (The map is drawn. I just need to do the neighbor assignments, etc.)

I think a few players are still traveling. So, it is more likely that we will start on October 2 or 3 instead of October 1.

Feel free to send in your pretenders any time.

Thanks.

Pasha

Re: Land Rand (pbem) - Full
 

I'm guessing that, as in ages past, we should give our pretender the name of our nation?

Re: Land Rand (pbem) - Full
 

I already submitted my pretender... and I don't even know what I named him... Pasha, i may need to resend if there are specific naming rules for pretenders, but i think i may have let random choose for me.

Re: Land Rand (pbem) - Full
 

It is very intersting to see a Polish of saying

谋事在人，成事在天。

:)

Re: Land Rand (pbem) - Full
 

Pasha:

Would it be possible to see the map before making a pretender?

Re: Land Rand (pbem) - Full
 

Pretender OTW. Cheers for organising the game, Pasha!

Re: Land Rand (pbem) - Full
 

mscfish:

It's a really good proverb :)

Re: Land Rand (pbem) - Full
 

The map is essentially done. I am just going to review a few things on Thursday and will post it on Thursday night.

Pretender names should just be very blah so as not to give any hint of your identity. The best practice is to use either the name of your nation or a name generated by the game itself.

I hope to start he game on Friday, October 2, assuming all players are back from their travels.

We still need to choose a victory condition based on the control of a # of capital provinces. Each capital will be worth one point and there will be 18. How many to win? 7 or 8?

Any other setting concerns?

Pasha

Re: Land Rand (pbem) - Full
 

I'll be happy with whatever...

Re: Land Rand (pbem) - Full
 

Hi everyone.

First off can I say a big 'Thank You' to Pasha for arranging another one of his always highly anticipated RAND games.

Secondly, I might be able to pull-off an October 3rd start, but at this stage I'd guess that would only give me about an hour or two at most to design a Pretender on Saturday. So can I humbly beg that we have a Sunday 4th October start, as that should allow me to come up with something on Sunday (since I should have that day pretty free with any luck). And I have been away from Dominions with my job until roughly two hours ago.

Thirdly, I'll add a +1 to Zeldor's question about whether or not the map will be made available before the Pretender's are due in.

Fourthly, is a list of the other nations in the game being published before Pretender's are due in? (as the answers to the latter two questions could certainly have some affect on Pretender design for many nations)


And I'm guessing Pasha that as in your previous games, turns will be 24 hours until turn 15, and then 3 turns a week until we start asking for 2 turns a week (or 72 hours)

Re: Land Rand (pbem) - Full
 

Pasha already told that starting positions will be random, but with fixed starting locations. So we have not much profit from checking the map before designing pretender.

Map Sent
 

Hello:

I have finished the map (GreeceStain) and emailed the files to all players as a zip.

I would rather keep the nation list secret to keep up the suspense. However, there are 18 land-only nations, and no nation in particular is banned. So, most land nations will be included.

While I would like to get the game moving, I am happy to grant Calahan's request to postpone the starting date until Sunday, October 4, 2009. That will give players plenty of time to tweak their pretender designs. Players are welcome to send me revisions until we start.

Thanks.

Pasha

Re: Land Rand (pbem) - Starts Sunday Oct 4
 

Is province 2 supposed to be water?

Re: Land Rand (pbem) - Starts Sunday Oct 4
 

Ugh!

Thanks for catching that. How did I miss that? Maybe I did something by accident after my province checking.

I will send out another .map file.

Re: Land Rand (pbem) - Starts Sunday Oct 4
 

Hi:
I haven't received any map file.So don't forget me.
:)

Re: Land Rand (pbem) - Starts Sunday Oct 4
 

Hi MscFish:

Keep me posted if it does not show up in your inbox. Also, I will post it on the forum this weekend. I just want to double check the neighbor connections, etc., once more before doing that.

Pasha

Re: Land Rand (pbem) - Starts Sunday Oct 4
 

Can't you disable water nations in map file? Dunno if game won't decide to try one in SP with random nations.

Re: Land Rand (pbem) - Starts Sunday Oct 4
 

Hey Guys, we are about to embark on a new magical cruise with captain Pasha. Hurray :) hold tight and enjoy the ride :D

Careful not to be thrown overboard all too soon ;)

Re: Land Rand (pbem) - Starts Sunday Oct 4
 

Pasha:

Shouldn't 79 and 41 starting locations have 3 provs between them, like other ones do?

Re: Land Rand (pbem) - Starts Sunday Oct 4
 

Thank you for catching that map issue, Zeldor! All capitals are intended to be at least 3 provinces apart. I will extend the mountain barrier and fix the neighbor connection.

Regarding you other question, when I do a test game, I don't do random land nations. I just set 18 players and manually select the land nations in a random fashion. Obviously, for the actual LAND RAND game, I will chose the nations that have actually been assigned to players.

Pasha

Re: Land Rand (pbem) - Starts Sunday Oct 4
 

Just waiting on QM's Pretender. It is very odd that he has not submitted his pretender yet. Micah was not receiving my emails, and so, perhaps, QM is not getting them either. (Micah is receiving them now.) I have sent QM a private message via the Forum.

Re: Land Rand (pbem) - Starts Sunday Oct 4
 

Hello:

Turn 1 is out.

Deadline is Wednesday at 9:00 p.m. Boston time.

Thanks.

Pasha

Re: Land Rand (pbem) - Starts Sunday Oct 4
 

...and we're off! :) GL, all.

Re: Land Rand (pbem) - Starts Sunday Oct 4
 

Good luck everyone.

Re: Land Rand (pbem) - Starts Sunday Oct 4
 

...cause you're all going to need it :evil:

Re: Land Rand (pbem) - Starts Sunday Oct 4
 

Very sorry to to everyone.
There is something wrong with my computer.And i request a 24H extention.
Mscfish

Re: Land Rand (pbem) - Starts Sunday Oct 4
 

I think it is important to give players some extra time when technology gets in the way. Hopefully, MscFish will be able to get the turn out by the end of today.

Re: Land Rand (pbem) - Starts Sunday Oct 4
 

no worries.

Re: Land Rand (pbem) - Starts Sunday Oct 4
 

Very sorry to everyone for my delay.
I have solved the probelm with my computer,and thanks to everyone for the first turn's extention.I
'm really very sorry aboout this.

Re: Land Rand (pbem) - Starts Sunday Oct 4
 

Don't sweat it mscfish. We're a patient folks here.
Or are we now???
Well yes we are!
maybe? ;)

Glad to hear you have your machine fixed :)

Re: Land Rand (pbem) - Starts Sunday Oct 4
 

Hello:

Turn 2 is out.

Deadline is Saturday at 9:00 p.m. Boston time.

Thanks.

Pasha

Re: Land Rand (pbem) - Starts Sunday Oct 4
 

Hello:

Turn 3 is out.

Deadline is Sunday at 9:00 p.m. Boston time.

Thanks.

Pasha

Re: Land Rand (pbem) - Starts Sunday Oct 4
 

Hello:

Turn 4 is out.

Deadline is Monday at 9:00 p.m. Boston time.

Thanks.

Pasha

Re: Land Rand (pbem) - Starts Sunday Oct 4
 

Hello:

Turn 5 is out.

Deadline is Tuesday at 9:00 p.m. Boston time.

Thanks.

Pasha

Re: Land Rand (pbem) - Starts Sunday Oct 4
 

Hello:

Turn 6 is out.

Deadline is Wednesday at 9:00 p.m. Boston time.

Thanks.

Pasha

Re: Land Rand (pbem)
 

Sorry all - thought I had sent turn 6... it's in now anyways.

Just a heads up on some 'away from the computer' time for me coming up:
1) I'm headed away for a night over this weekend - I probably can get to a Dom3-worthy computer but I may need a 12-24hr extension for turn 8.
2) next week (mon-friday Aust timezone) - Fieldwork for my job means I'll be in the middle of a swamp (literally :bug:) for four days - want me to try for a sub?

Re: Land Rand (pbem)
 

Hi Wokeye:

If you could find a sub for when you're in the swamp, that would be very, very helpful. With 18 players, we need to limit the delays as much as possible. Thanks!

Turn 7 is out.

Deadline is Friday at 9:00 p.m. Boston time.

Pasha

Re: Land Rand (pbem)
 

Hello:

Turn 8 is out.

Deadline is Saturday at 9:00 p.m. Boston time.

Thanks.

Pasha

Re: Land Rand (pbem)
 

Looks like I have a sub, will advise Pasha accordingly and prepare swamp-going equipment.

Re: Land Rand (pbem)
 

Excellent.

Re: Land Rand (pbem)
 

Hello:

Turn 9 is out.

Deadline is Monday at 9:00 p.m. Boston time.

Thanks.

Pasha

Re: Land Rand (pbem)
 

Hadrian II will be filling in for Wokeye while he is in the swamp. Thank you, Hadrian II, for filling in.

Pasha