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tinkthank July 20th, 2004 10:56 AM

How does the game get info on sites (where are the sites coded/listed in-game)?
 
I have been repairing some maps and trying to mod some of my own, but cannot figure out where the sites are stored in-game. (I clicked on a whole bunch of files in the dom2 directory and tried to open them with wordpad, but no luck.)

I ask for two reasons. The Map Mod Doc in the dom2 folder lists a "short sample" of sites at the end -- but where is this taken from? That must be stored somewhere....
The second reason is the excellent Exel-Chart of sites I found on Sunray's site; this is a great chart, and I by no means want to criticize it, but there are a few errors in it (which I am correcting bit by bit); and s/he had to have gotten this information from somewhere too...

thanks much

Endoperez July 20th, 2004 12:10 PM

Re: How does the game get info on sites (where are the sites coded/listed in-game)?
 
IIRC the levels were gotten by making a new game in which a race started with 4 commanders, with 1,2,3 and 4 in all magics. All provinces were searched for, and the levels at which sites were found were noted.

It might also have happened through the different graphics that sites of different levels have, but I am not sure if that was known then. I learned only recently that site's graphics depend on the level needed to find it.

Molog July 20th, 2004 03:55 PM

Re: How does the game get info on sites (where are the sites coded/listed in-game)?
 
The names are in the executable, get some hexeditor to browse it.

Starting offset: 0022:DE30

tinkthank July 20th, 2004 04:32 PM

Re: How does the game get info on sites (where are the sites coded/listed in-game)?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Molog:
The names are in the executable, get some hexeditor to browse it.

Starting offset: 0022:DE30

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Hey thanks.
Um -- what does that mean? (Hexeditor = ? Starting offset = ?)
Or do I need to understand programming stuff to be able to open and understand that information with a "hexeditor"?

Molog July 20th, 2004 05:18 PM

Re: How does the game get info on sites (where are the sites coded/listed in-game)?
 
I'll just give the names here, if nobody minds.

0022:DE30 . . . . . . . . T h e C a r r i o n G r o v e . . . . . . .
0022:DE50 T e m p l e S a n g u i n e . . . . . A k a d e m e i a . . .
0022:DE70 L y k e i o n . . . . . M o u n t C e p h a l o s . . . . . .
0022:DE90 P a l a c e o f P e a r l s . . . . T h e S u n B e l o
0022:DEB0 w . . . T h e P r e v i o u s F o r e s t . . . . . T o m b
0022:DED0 o f t h e A n c i e n t s . . . . . . . . T h e M o u n
0022:DEF0 t a i n o f t h e P a s t . . . . . . . . T h e D e e p
0022:DF10 e s t M i n e . . . . H o u s e o f J u s t i c e . . . .
0022:DF30 N a v a l A c a d e m y . . . T h r o n e o f t h e W o
0022:DF50 r l d . . . . . T h e C a v e o f S o u l s . . . . . . .
0022:DF70 T h e S w a m p o f D r e a d . . . . . . T h e V a l l
0022:DF90 e y o f S h a m e . . . . . T h e V a u l t s B e n e a
0022:DFB0 t h . . . . . . S t r a n g e H o u s e i n t h e M i s
0022:DFD0 t . . . . . . . D r a g o n J a w s . . . . . W e l l o f
0022:DFF0 A l l W a t e r s . . . . . . O a k o f A g e s . . . . .
0022:E010 A c a d e m y o f t h e C r e s c e n t M o o n . . . .
0022:E030 . . . . S k u l l T e m p l e . . . . F r o z e n L a n d s
0022:E050 . . . . F o r e s t o f G o l d e n L e a v e s . . . . .
0022:E070 S h r i n e o f t h e W i l d . . . . . . W e l l o f
0022:E090 D a r k n e s s . . . . M o o n l i t P o n d o f P e a r
0022:E0B0 l s . . . . . . C t o n i a n G a t e . . . . F r o z e n F
0022:E0D0 o u n t a i n . . . . . T e m p e s t H a l l . . . . F o u n
0022:E0F0 t a i n o f R u b i e s . . . . . . T h e D e s e r t o
0022:E110 f P t a h . . . . . . T h e W o r l d P i l l a r . . . .
0022:E130 T h e H o l y C r y p t o f A n r e . . . . . . T h e
0022:E150 P r i m a l F o r e s t . . . . . . . T h e C l i f f o f
0022:E170 S e v e n D i r e c t i o n s . . . . . . . T h e S n a k
0022:E190 e C o l l e c t o r . . . . . T h e D r a i n i n g S t o
0022:E1B0 n e . . . . . . T h e C r y s t a l A c a d e m y . . . . .
0022:E1D0 D r a g o n M o u n t a i n . . . . . D r a g o n F o r e s
0022:E1F0 t . . . R e d F o r e s t . . . . . . F o r e s t o f S p
0022:E210 l e n d o u r . . . . . F o r e s t o f P a i n . . . . . .
0022:E230 T h e B l o o d R o c k . . . . . . T h r o n e o f E n
0022:E250 l i g h t e n m e n t . . . . . T h e V a l e o f U n i c
0022:E270 o r n s . . . . . . . . H a u n t e d T o r t u r e C h a m
0022:E290 b e r . . . . . T e m p l e o f t h e A l l - S e e i n g
0022:E2B0 E y e . . . . . . . . T h e O b s i d i a n S p h e r e .
0022:E2D0 . . . . B e a r M o u n t a i n . . . V a l l e y o f t h
0022:E2F0 e R o c . . . . . . . A s s a s s i n s G u i l d . . . . .
0022:E310 S i l v e r F o r e s t . . . A n c i e n t F o r e s t . .
0022:E330 . . . . S t o n e S p i r e s . . . . T w i s t i n g W o o
0022:E350 d s . . . . . . W o l v e n G a t e . . . . . C r o w n o f
0022:E370 D a r k n e s s . . . . . . . B a n e f i r e F o r g e . .
0022:E390 . . . . H a l l s o f t h e D e a d . . . . . . . V i l l
0022:E3B0 a g e o f S t r a n g e M e n . . . . . . N e x u s . . .
0022:E3D0 D i s t o r t i o n . . . . . . B l i z z a r d V a l l e y .
0022:E3F0 . . . . T e m p e s t S p i r e . . . C o n j u r e r ' s C
0022:E410 a v e . . . . . C h a m b e r o f C h a n g e s . . . . . .
0022:E430 A n c i e n t F o r g e . . . B l a c k I c e V a l l e y
0022:E450 . . . . T e m p l e o f t h e T u r n i n g T i d e . .
0022:E470 . . . . S o l a r L e n s . . . . . . C a s t l e A r c a n
0022:E490 u m . . . . . . H a l l o f F l a y e d S k i n s . . . .
0022:E4B0 . . . . P o o l o f S a n c t i t y . . . . N a v i g a t o
0022:E4D0 r s G u i l d . . . . S h a m b l e r R e e f . . . A n c i
0022:E4F0 e n t T e m p l e o f t h e D e e p s . . . . . . . . .
0022:E510 T h e L a s t V o i d . . . T h e W a t e r S o l s t i
0022:E530 c e . . . . . . T h e C r a t e r . . . . . . G o r g e o f
0022:E550 M y s t e r y . . . . L a b y r i n t h o f t h e D e e
0022:E570 p s . . . . . . A r c a n e G a t e w a y . . . . . . P e a r
0022:E590 l S t a i r w a y . . . . . . B a s a l t P i l l a r s . .
0022:E5B0 . . . . I s l e o f D e a t h . . . T h e W a s t e d S
0022:E5D0 e a . . . . . . D y i n g G r o u n d o f t h e W h a l
0022:E5F0 e s . . . . . . R e e f o f S u n k e n S h i p s . . . .
0022:E610 . . . . G h o u l F i s h C a v e . . . . . S u n k e n G
0022:E630 a l l e y . . . S e a O a k . . . . . C o r a l G a r d e n
0022:E650 . . . . K e l p G r o v e . . . . . . F l o a t i n g F o r
0022:E670 e s t . . . . . A m b e r B e a c h I s l a n d . . . . . .
0022:E690 K e l p F o r e s t . . . . . I s l e o f t h e S e a
0022:E6B0 F a t h e r s . . . . . C i t y o f S t o n e s . . . . . .
0022:E6D0 B a s a l t H a l l s . . . . B a s a l t S t a t u e . . .
0022:E6F0 M o v i n g S a n d B a n k s . . . . . . . U n d e r w a t
0022:E710 e r C l i f f . . . . A c a d e m y U n d e r n e a t h . .
0022:E730 . . . . I s l e o f I c e . . . . . T o w e r o f P e a
0022:E750 r l s . . . . . S h r i n e o f t h e S h a r k L o r d
0022:E770 s . . . . . . . K r a k e n P i t . . . . . . S u n k e n T
0022:E790 o w e r . . . . M a n ' o ' W a r B r e e d i n g G r o u n
0022:E7B0 d . . . . . . . S u n k e n I s l a n d . . . C o r a l S t
0022:E7D0 a t u e . . . . C l a m F i e l d . . . . . . C o r a l R e
0022:E7F0 e f . . . . . . D i a m o n d C o r a l s . . . . . . P o c k
0022:E810 e t o f A i r . . . I m p r i z o n e d Z e p h y r . . .
0022:E830 . . . . U n d e r w a t e r C a v e . . . . . M a g m a R i
0022:E850 v e r . . . . . F i r e R i f t . . . G o r g e o f G l o
0022:E870 w i n g F i s h . . . . . . . S e v e n t h H o u s e o n
0022:E890 t h e L e f t . . . . . . . T o w e r o f S e v e n T
0022:E8B0 o m b s . . . . . . . . F l e s h E a t e r ' s I s l e . .
0022:E8D0 . . . . I n k p o t E n d . . . . . . G r o v e U n p l e a
0022:E8F0 s a n t . . . . T e m p l e o f D a r k n e s s . . . . . .
0022:E910 C a v e o f D a r k R i t e s . . . . . . U n h o l y T
0022:E930 e m p l e . . . T h e W a r d . . . . T h e F o r g o t t e
0022:E950 n C r y p t . . . . . T h e E m p t y G r a v e . . . . .
0022:E970 T h e M a r b l e T e m p l e . . . . . . . T e m p l e o
0022:E990 f T i m e . . . . . . M o n a s t e r y o f L i g h t . .
0022:E9B0 . . . . H i d d e n M o n a s t e r y . . . . A n c i e n t
0022:E9D0 T e m p l e . . . . . . T h e M o u n t a i n o f P o w e
0022:E9F0 r . . . . . . . T h e P r i s o n o f H e a r t s . . . .
0022:EA10 . . . . T h e D e m o n G a t e . . . . . . T h e E b o n
0022:EA30 y C i r c l e . . . . D e v i l ' s D e n . . . . . T h e
0022:EA50 V a l e o f I n f i n i t e H o r r o r . . . . . . . . .
0022:EA70 M o u n t C h a i n i n g . . . . . . G o r e S w a m p s .
0022:EA90 . . . . S u m m o n i n g C i r c l e . . . . E b o n y T o
0022:EAB0 w e r . . . . . B l o o d H e n g e . . . . . F i e l d s o
0022:EAD0 f B l o o d . . . . . D a m n e d M e r c h a n t . . . . .
0022:EAF0 A c a d e m y o f W a r . . . . . . B r i g a n d L a i r
0022:EB10 . . . . A r e n a . . . S o u l o f t h e W i l d . . . .
0022:EB30 T h e L a n d o f P l e a s u r e s U n a t t a i n e d
0022:EB50 . . . . . . . . T h e G a t e o f D e e p e r S l u m b
0022:EB70 e r . . . . . . T h e S h r o u d e d L a n d s . . . . . .
0022:EB90 T h e S a c r e d G l e n . . . . . F o r e s t o f t h
0022:EBB0 e A p e K i n g . . . . . . V a l e o f t h e S i l v
0022:EBD0 e r C a t t l e . . . . . . . A n i m i s t ' s T o w e r .
0022:EBF0 . . . . T h e C o t t a g e i n t h e W o o d s . . . .
0022:EC10 . . . . F o r e s t o f A v e n d r o n . . . . . . T h e
0022:EC30 M o t h e r o a k . . . G a t e w a r d V a l l e y . . . . .
0022:EC50 T h e C r o w n W o o d s . . . . . M o o n v i n e C i r
0022:EC70 c l e . . . . . T h e C e d a r F o r e s t . . . . T h e
0022:EC90 F l o w e r i n g F o r e s t . . . . . . . . T h e M a m m
0022:ECB0 o t h F o r e s t . . . . . . T h e C e d a r P i l l a r
0022:ECD0 s . . . . . . . H o r s e s V a l e . . . . . M a z e o f
0022:ECF0 T h o r n H e d g e s . . . . . . . . J u n g l e T e m p l
0022:ED10 e . . . M a n d r a k e G a l l o w s . . . . F l o w e r S
0022:ED30 w a m p . . . . H a l l o f A n c i e n t O a k s . . . .
0022:ED50 . . . . W o r m w o o d M a r s h . . . . . . D y i n g F o
0022:ED70 r e s t . . . . E n d l e s s F o r e s t . . . . . . F o r e
0022:ED90 s t o f a T h o u s a n d S t r e a m s . . . . . . . .
0022:EDB0 H i d d e n V a l l e y . . . W h i s p e r i n g W o o d s
0022:EDD0 . . . . F i e l d s o f t h e F i r e F l i e s . . . .
0022:EDF0 . . . . A n i m i s t ' s H u t . . . S t o n e C i r c l e
0022:EE10 . . . . H i d d e n F o r e s t . . . B i l e M a r s h . .
0022:EE30 . . . . W i l d F o r e s t . . . . . G r o v e o f E v e
0022:EE50 r g r e e n s . . . . . G a r d e n o f W e e p i n g R o
0022:EE70 s e s . . . . . F a r m o f P l e n t y . . . . . . F o r e
0022:EE90 s t o f D e l i g h t s . . . . . . G l e n o f V e r d
0022:EEB0 a n t G r e e n e r y . . . . . . . . T h e S h a d o w F
0022:EED0 u r n a c e . . . . . . T h e M a u s o l e u m o f t h e
0022:EEF0 G r e a t S a r l a h . . . . . . . T h e C i t y o f
0022:EF10 a T h o u s a n d W o n d e r s . . . . . . . . . . T h e
0022:EF30 S h a d e d L a n d s . . . . T h e B o w l o f t h e
0022:EF50 L o s t . . . . . . . . F l e s h G a r d e n o f M o r t
0022:EF70 a l R e m a i n s . . . . . . . . . . T h e C r y p t U n
0022:EF90 d e r n e a t h . . . . . . . . L i t t e r S k u l l . . . .
0022:EFB0 G r a y s h a d e F o r e s t . . . . L e p e r F e n s . .
0022:EFD0 . . . . C h i l l s i c k S w a m p . . . . . S t a t u e o
0022:EFF0 f D e a t h . . . . . D e a t h M o u n d D o w n s . . .
0022:F010 . . . . B l a c k T o w e r . . . . . R a v e n O a k . . .
0022:F030 M a r b l e M a u s o l e u m . . . . O v e r g r o w n G r
0022:F050 a v e y a r d . . . . . C a t a c o m b s . . . W i t c h e s
0022:F070 B o g . . . . . C r y p t i n t h e S a n d . . . . . . .
0022:F090 W i n d s w e p t C a t a c o m b s . . . . . B a n e f i r e
0022:F0B0 B r a z i e r s . . . . . . . A s h e n F o r e s t . . . .
0022:F0D0 F o r e s t o f t h e D e a d . . . . . . B r o k e n T
0022:F0F0 o w e r . . . . G a l l o w s . . . . . H a u n t e d V i l l
0022:F110 a g e . . . . . W e l l o f P e s t i l e n c e . . . . . .
0022:F130 C a v e o f G h o u l s . . . . . . G r a v e y a r d o f
0022:F150 t h e D a m n e d . . . . . B u r i a l M o u n d . . . .
0022:F170 B a t t l e f i e l d . . . . . L i b r a r y o f T i m e .
0022:F190 . . . . T h e U l t i m a t e G a t e w a y . . . . . . . .
0022:F1B0 T h e G r e y T o w e r o f N e x u s . . . . . T h e
0022:F1D0 H i d d e n K i n g d o m o f E l l u d i a . . . . . . .
0022:F1F0 T h e C o u n c i l o f S a g e s . . . . . . . . C i t a
0022:F210 d e l o f t h e L o r e M a s t e r s . . . . . . . . .
0022:F230 T h e C r y s t a l C i t a d e l . . . . . T h e A n c i
0022:F250 e n t M a s t e r . . . . . . M o o n M a g e s C i r c l
0022:F270 e . . . . . . . G a t e w a y . . . . . T o t e m C o l l e c
0022:F290 t i o n . . . . P y r a m i d o f L i f e . . . . . S c r y
0022:F2B0 i n g P o o l . . . . C a v e s o f P a s s i n g T i m
0022:F2D0 e . . . . . . . M i r r o r P a l a c e . . . C r y s t a l
0022:F2F0 F l a m e s . . . . . . A b a n d o n e d L a b o r a t o r y
0022:F310 . . . . . . . . S a g e s G u i l d . . . . . S t r a n g e
0022:F330 O p e n i n g . . . . . L a k e o f R e f l e c t e d T i
0022:F350 m e . . . . . . C r y s t a l G a r d e n . . . . . . M o n o
0022:F370 l i t h . . . . M a z e . . . . P a i n t e d C a v e . . . .
0022:F390 L i b r a r y . . . . . T h e F a c t o r y . . . . . T h e
0022:F3B0 C o r n e r s t o n e . . . . . T h e S t a t u e s o f t
0022:F3D0 h e O v e r l o r d s . . . . . . . . T h e U n d e r w o r
0022:F3F0 l d . . . . . . T h e C h a s m o f B l a c k R o s e s
0022:F410 . . . . . . . . T h e L a b y r i n t h . . . T h e B r o k
0022:F430 e n M a z e . . . . . T e n T h o u s a n d T h i n g s .
0022:F450 . . . . T h e J e r v e l l a n W a l l . . . . . . T h e
0022:F470 F o r g o t t e n F o r t r e s s . . . . . . W h i t e M a
0022:F490 n H i l l . . . . . . S t e e l S w a m p s . . . . R u n a
0022:F4B0 w a y P i t . . . . . T r o g l o d y t e D e n . . . . . .
0022:F4D0 T r o l l P i t . . . L o s t V a l e o f t h e E l d
0022:F4F0 e r s . . . . . A r c h a i c F o r t r e s s . . . . T w i c
0022:F510 e W a l l e d T o w e r . . . . . . T o w e r o f t h e
0022:F530 I r o n O r d e r . . . . . E n t r a n c e . . . . F o r e
0022:F550 s t o f T r u f f l e s . . . . . . C a v e o f t h e
0022:F570 P a l e O n e s . . . . . . . C h a s m o f S t r a n g e
0022:F590 L i g h t s . . . . . W a t e r F i l l e d C a v e . . .
0022:F5B0 . . . . S t a n d i n g S t o n e s . . . . . M a g m a C a
0022:F5D0 v e . . . . . . G o r g e . . . G e m D e p o s i t s . . . .
0022:F5F0 H i d d e n G o l d M i n e . . . . G r e a t S i l v e r
0022:F610 M i n e . . . . . . . G r e a t G o l d M i n e . . . . .
0022:F630 G r e a t I r o n M i n e . . . . . M i n e o f S u p e
0022:F650 r i o r I r o n . . . . . . . C a n y o n o f S a n d . .
0022:F670 . . . . I r o n C l i f f . . . . . . E a r t h B l o o d
0022:F690 S e e p a g e . . . . . M i n e r a l C a v e . . . . T h e
0022:F6B0 S e a U n d e r n e a t h . . . . . . T h e G r e a t M i
0022:F6D0 r r o r o f M a a k i . . . . . . . T h e W a t e r S p
0022:F6F0 h e r e . . . . T h e S e a o f t h e T e a r s o f
0022:F710 M e n . . . . . . . . . T h e F r o z e n F o r e s t . . .
0022:F730 . . . . S t o n y S w a m p s . . . . T h e F o r e s t o
0022:F750 f t h e L a k e . . . . . . M o u n t F r o s t . . . . .
0022:F770 T h e F e r r y . . . R u s t w a t e r . . . A z u r e A c
0022:F790 a d e m y . . . F r o s t V a l e . . . . . . M i s t S w a
0022:F7B0 m p s . . . . . B o t t o m l e s s L a k e . . . . . L i f e
0022:F7D0 l e s s L a k e . . . O v e r g r o w n L a k e . . . . . .
0022:F7F0 C o r p s e C a n d l e s ' M a r s h . . . . . . . W e l l
0022:F810 o f Y e s t e r d a y s W a t e r s . . . . . . . R o c k
0022:F830 s i d e S p r i n g . . . . . W a t e r f a l l . . . B o i l
0022:F850 i n g B o g . . . . . P e a r l B e a c h . . . . . G e y s
0022:F870 e r . . L a n t e r n F e n s . . . . S i n k m a r s h . . .
0022:F890 L a k e o f M i s t s . . . W e e p i n g S t o n e . . .
0022:F8B0 S i n g i n g S t r e a m . . . . . . M e r c u r y P o n d
0022:F8D0 . . . . W e l l o f W h i t e W a t e r . . . . . P a l a
0022:F8F0 c e o f D r e a m s . . . . T h e R a i n b o w S h r o
0022:F910 u d . . . . . . T h e I n v e r t e d T o w e r . . . . . .
0022:F930 T h e D o o m C l o u d . . . . . . T h e W h i r l w i n
0022:F950 d o f C y c l o n . . . . . T h e F l a i l i n g F o r
0022:F970 e s t . . . . . M i r r o r W a l l P a l a c e . . . . . .
0022:F990 S t a i r w a y M o u n t a i n . . . . . . . T h e C l o v
0022:F9B0 e n M o u n t a i n . . . . . F o r e s t o f J o y . . .
0022:F9D0 T w i n S p i r e T o w e r . . . . I v o r y T o w e r .
0022:F9F0 . . . . T o w e r o f t h e S i l v e r O r d e r . . .
0022:FA10 . . . . D r a g o n C l i f f . . . . M i r r o r l a k e . .
0022:FA30 . . . . C y p r e s s F o r e s t . . . . . . D e s e r t o
0022:FA50 f S i g h s . . . . . C l o u d P i l l a r s . . . S i n g
0022:FA70 i n g S t o n e s . . . . . . I c e M i s t s . . . E l u s
0022:FA90 i v e L i g h t s . . . . . . C r a c k e d T o w e r . . .
0022:FAB0 C a n y o n o f P l a y f u l W i n d s . . . . . H o w l
0022:FAD0 i n g G o r g e . . . M i s t C o v e r e d H i g h l a n
0022:FAF0 d s . . . . . . C a v e o f C l o u d s . . . . . . B l a s
0022:FB10 t e d H e a t h . . . C a n y o n o f W i l d W i n d s
0022:FB30 . . . . . . . . T h u n d e r O a k . . . . . P r i s o n o
0022:FB50 f t h e D e s e r t S u n . . . . . . . . T h e B r a s
0022:FB70 s D o o r H i l l . . . . . T h e T e m p l e o f t h
0022:FB90 e R a g i n g G o d . . . . . . . . T h e F i r e P r i
0022:FBB0 s o n . . . . . T h e G l o w i n g H i l l . . . . T h e
0022:FBD0 C i t a d e l o f P y r i p h l e g e t o n . . . . . . . .
0022:FBF0 H i g h T e m p l e o f t h e M a g i i . . . . . . . .
0022:FC10 T h e S t e e l O v e n s . . . . . O r i c h a l u m M i
0022:FC30 n e . . . . . . F o u n t a i n o f F i r e . . . . A s h e
0022:FC50 n F i e l d s . . . . A c a d e m y o f H i g h M a g i
0022:FC70 c s . . . . . . T o w e r o f t h e G o l d e n O r d e
0022:FC90 r . . . . . . . V o l c a n o . . . . . L a n t e r n F o r e
0022:FCB0 s t . . . . . . D e s e r t o f B o n e s . . . . . S t a r
0022:FCD0 g a z e r s C l i f f . . . . C o p p e r C l i f f . . . .
0022:FCF0 B o g o f S t r a n g e L i g h t s . . . . . . . R a g e
0022:FD10 W i n d H e a t h . . . . . S m o k e F o r e s t . . . .
0022:FD30 A l c h e m i s t s G u i l d . . . . M a g u s T e m p l e
0022:FD50 . . . . P l a i n o f P e r p e t u a l D r o u g h t . .
0022:FD70 . . . . B r o n z e P i l l a r . . . G o l d A p p l e T
0022:FD90 r e e . . . . . S u n R i d g e . . . T a r P i t s . . . .
0022:FDB0 I r o n M i n e . . . C o p p e r M i n e . . . . . S i l v
0022:FDD0 e r M i n e . . . . . G o l d M i n e . . . T h e D e s e
0022:FDF0 r t E y e . . . . . . T e m p l e o f t h e S p h e r e
0022:FE10 s . . . . . . . T h e T o m b s . . . G o d M o u n t a i n
0022:FE30 . . . . G o d F o r e s t . . . . . . H e l h a l l a . . . .
0022:FE50 A v a l o n . . T e m p l e o f t h e D e a d . . . . . .
0022:FE70 T h e G a t e o f S p r i n g a n d A u t u m n . . .
0022:FE90 . . . . T h e B a m b o o G r o v e . . . . T h e C e l e
0022:FEB0 s t i a l C i t y . . . . . . T h e H e a v e n l y G a t
0022:FED0 e . . . . . . . W e l l o f U r d . . . . . T h e V o i d
0022:FEF0 G a t e . . . T h e B l a c k T e m p l e . . . . T h e
0022:FF10 S a c r e d S w a m p . . . . T e m p l e o f t h e E v
0022:FF30 e r b u r n i n g P y r e . . . . . . . . . . T h e D e e p
0022:FF50 e s t C a v e o f t h e P r o v i n c e . . . . . . . .
0022:FF70 O l e g ' s A l c h e m i c a l D e v i c e . . . . . . . .
0022:FF90 V a n h a l l a . . . . H o u s e o f F i e r y J u s t i
0022:FFB0 c e . . . . . . H i g h T e m p l e o f t h e S u n . .
0022:FFD0 . . . . T e m p l e o f t h e M o o n . . . . . . T e m p
0022:FFF0 l e o f t h e R a i n . . . . . . T e m p l e o f t h
0023:0010 e L a n d . . . . . . T h e R u i n e d K e e p . . . . .
0023:0030 H o b u r g . . T h e Q u e e n ' s G a l l e y . . . . . .
0023:0050 S t a r k e ' s I c e C a v e . . . . . . . T h e U n h o
0023:0070 l y S e p u l c h r e . . . . . . . . B o l i v a r ' s T o
0023:0090 w e r o f R e f l e c t i o n s . . . . . . . . . . M i n e
0023:00B0 o f t h e C y c l o p s . . . . . S u r a k i d ' s T o
0023:00D0 w e r . . . . . H i d d e n G r o v e . . . . R a v e n s V
0023:00F0 a l e . . . . . T h e S u n k e n C i t y . . . . . I r o n
0023:0110 W o o d s . . . . . . T h e H a l l s o f A n d v a r e
0023:0130 . . . . . . . . T h e G r o v e o f G a i a . . . . . . .
0023:0150 T h e H o u s e o f F i e r y J u s t i c e . . . . . .
0023:0170 E m p o i s o n e r s G u i l d . . . . . . . T h e C i t a
0023:0190 d e l o f F r o z e n C r y s t a l . . . . . . . T o w e
0023:01B0 r o f a T h o u s a n d S t a r s . . . . . . . T h e
0023:01D0 T e m p l e M a r s h . . . . T h e F o r g e s o f U l
0023:01F0 m . . . . . . . T h e K e e p o f U l m . . . . . T o w e
0023:0210 r o f A v a l o n . . . . . F o r e s t o f A v a l o n
0023:0230 . . . . S w a m p s o f P y t h i a . . . . C a t h e d r a
0023:0250 l o f t h e S p h e r e s . . . . . . . . T h e C o r a
0023:0270 l T o w e r s . . . . T h e S m o u l d e r c o n e . .

[ July 20, 2004, 16:24: Message edited by: Molog ]

Boron July 20th, 2004 05:28 PM

Re: How does the game get info on sites (where are the sites coded/listed in-game)?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Molog:
The names are in the executable, get some hexeditor to browse it.

Starting offset: 0022:DE30

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">but that are only the names do you know where to find the information what they do too ?

Gandalf Parker July 20th, 2004 06:45 PM

Re: How does the game get info on sites (where are the sites coded/listed in-game)?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Boron:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Molog:
The names are in the executable, get some hexeditor to browse it.

Starting offset: 0022:DE30

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">but that are only the names do you know where to find the information what they do too ? </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">There are member created lists and spreadhsheets showing all the sites and what they do. Will that work or are you really interested in where the GAME gets the information.

The compiled game keeps such info in formats which are very hard to get to. Only "strings" such as the names or text descriptions can be easily extracted. Though I prefer the linux strings command to a hex editor view. Its easier to redirect the results to a text file.

tinkthank July 21st, 2004 01:57 AM

Re: How does the game get info on sites (where are the sites coded/listed in-game)?
 
I mean, when you mod a map, and you write e.g.
#killfeatures
#knownfeature "Thunder Oak"

then the game must somehow interpret this information; somewhere, "Thunder Oak" and "Forest of Delights" and all the rest of the sites has to be stored in a library of some sorts with information about what it is, right? So where is that?

Molog July 21st, 2004 03:00 AM

Re: How does the game get info on sites (where are the sites coded/listed in-game)?
 
You could mod all the sitenames into a map(preferably in some automated way) and check them out.

tinkthank July 21st, 2004 11:50 AM

Re: How does the game get info on sites (where are the sites coded/listed in-game)?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Gandalf Parker:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Boron:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Molog:
The names are in the executable, get some hexeditor to browse it.

Starting offset: 0022:DE30

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">but that are only the names do you know where to find the information what they do too ? </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">There are member created lists and spreadhsheets showing all the sites and what they do. Will that work or are you really interested in where the GAME gets the information.

The compiled game keeps such info in formats which are very hard to get to. Only "strings" such as the names or text descriptions can be easily extracted. Though I prefer the linux strings command to a hex editor view. Its easier to redirect the results to a text file.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Thank you all.
I was interested in how the *game* gets this information; I am currently correcting those fan-based spreadsheets, since they have many errors or conflicts; however, I thought I would just go to the source.
Now I see that this is not easy. Unfortunately, I know too little about computers to extract that info. Thanks though.


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