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Methel May 8th, 2007 04:58 PM

MA Ulm vs Elephants
 
Playing in a mp game as Ulm, I've made contact with all three elephant producing nations now, so I looking for some hints on handling the pachyderms.

Cor May 8th, 2007 05:32 PM

Re: MA Ulm vs Elephants
 
run.

more seriously,

-lots and lots of archers scripted to fire largest.
-Spells that hurt single targets badly, mind burn, frozen heart etc.
-dont waste money on elite troops since they will just get trampled anyway.
-flanking and killing leaders is always good
-spells that hurt moral are GREAT
-if you have acess to large troops like Trogs, buy/summon them.

Foodstamp May 8th, 2007 05:35 PM

Re: MA Ulm vs Elephants
 
Break their morale and the Elephants become your weapon http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif. Archers seem to do an excellent job as Cor suggested.

Micah May 8th, 2007 05:37 PM

Re: MA Ulm vs Elephants
 
Magma bolt and blade wind are going to probably be your best bets for your smiths. General evocation spells.

Ideally you'll pull an F2 smith random or a pretender with fire magic so you can cast flaming arrows (on indies, not your arbalests). Research this over evo if you can pull it off. You'll need conj 3 for power summoning regardless.

Dropping a few Curse of stones will help as well in a big battle, but it won't help much til your troops start getting trampled to death, and you want to keep them away with ranged attacks if at all possible.

It's not a pretty matchup for Ulm though. Good luck.

MaxWilson May 8th, 2007 07:22 PM

Re: MA Ulm vs Elephants
 
F2 smith won't work in 3.08 since Fire Arrows has been raised to F4. You'll need to forge a skull of fire or a flame helmet with your pretender or an F1D1 shaman.

-Max

Micah May 8th, 2007 08:29 PM

Re: MA Ulm vs Elephants
 
Yes it will Max. Phoenix Power to F3 and then an extra gem to bump your level to 4 since it only takes 1 to cast. I referenced needing conjuration 3 in my post. (You need it for blade wind even if you go the evocation route, which is a large upgrade over magma bolts)

MaxWilson May 8th, 2007 09:05 PM

Re: MA Ulm vs Elephants
 
Good point about the extra gem.

-Max

PvK May 9th, 2007 06:47 PM

Re: MA Ulm vs Elephants
 
Arbalests with orders to Fire at Large Monsters. Avoid directly engaging with heavily armored troops.

Shovah32 May 9th, 2007 07:06 PM

Re: MA Ulm vs Elephants
 
Although in a last ditch effort(and with good timing) some flail troops can finish off the elephants.


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