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miq April 28th, 2020 04:50 PM

obat11 Russia
 
I'm unable to fit the HMG platoon into any of the assigned vehicles (formations 509, 510, 511). I've got the same issue with MMG formations 67 and 503 when selecting BTR-82(A).

Unit 872 with NSV should be named MT-LBVM, "V" is just for wide tracks. Source: https://medium.com/@Monk_of_War/the-...d-63fe4fa13023

RPG-22 (weapon 26) should be named "Netto".

DRG April 28th, 2020 05:08 PM

Re: obat11 Russia
 
Will investigate. Those formations have been like that at least a decade....... Ahh.... I see now the teams were originally 3 men and are now 4....looks like 3-4 years ago but no time to dig further ATM

DRG April 30th, 2020 09:52 AM

Re: obat11 Russia
 
The full solution will have to wait for whenever we update the game again but if you do not PBEM and don't think you ever will you can easily fix this exactly the way I fixed it

First off this little "problem" goes back to a change made in 2012 so obviously few people use those armoured HMG formations otherwise we would have heard about this sooner

The armoured HMG formations are stand-alone's so they are not used as part of a larger formation so fixing is simple

In the master OOB they now look like this......

509 HMG Sec /APC
510 HMG Sec /BMP
511 HMG Sec /Lt APC

so they are "sections" not platoons and you create that by removing the template transport vehicle from the fourth slot and put it in the third slot leaving you with 2 HMG teams per vehicle instead of 3 then you change Plt to Sec for the formation name and the "problem" goes away

Then change BTR-82's from 108 carry to 109 carry.....that *may* be incorrect to some but it's what works.....it's a game not reality and we cannot break up units like can be done in reality so sometimes we have to bend reality and that is what it takes to make MG Pl /APC work using the BTR-82's

The other two name adjustments have been made as well

MarkSheppard January 1st, 2021 12:11 PM

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While researching the immediate post-war Soviet Airborne Units, I discovered the detailed conversions of the Tu-4 bomber into airborne transports.

They developed the Tu-4D and associated "cabins" (giant drop tanks), and Factory no.23 converted 100 to 300 (sources differ) Tu-4 into this configuration starting 1955.

https://i.imgur.com/uemi9EU.jpg
early test of a P-90 cockpit with ZIS-2 cannon

When equipped with two loaded cabins, each with either a SD-44 self propelled gun, or a ASU-57, the Tu-4D had a 800~ km (500 mile) radius of action.

Apparently the system was only in service for a very short period of time -- 1956 to about 1958 -- because at this point the turboprop powered An-8 and An-12 arrived with "roll off" cargo doors.

DRG January 1st, 2021 04:30 PM

Re: obat11 Russia
 
It's interesting, but all things considered, I think I will give adding it to the OOB a pass

MarkSheppard January 1st, 2021 04:33 PM

Re: obat11 Russia
 
Understandable, since there are so few free slots now, and Russia's notorious for adding new "improved" equipment into service at a rapid clip.

RC4 April 18th, 2021 10:25 AM

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A good information site with many TO&E and info
https://www.battleorder.org/military-organization

Suhiir April 18th, 2021 06:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RC4 (Post 850088)
A good information site with many TO&E and info

VERY useful and apparently up-to-date.

blazejos June 30th, 2021 07:10 AM

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Great photo of soviet recruits training with RPG-7 late sixties/ early seventies
https://v.wpimg.pl/MDg0MTIwYiUGUjtnZ...e0YvIAIJdDVrCg

Pibwl December 12th, 2021 04:11 PM

Re: obat11 Russia
 
409 Igla-1 SAM - weapon #143 9M313 Igla-1 has the same accuracy 118 as later #132 9M39 Igla, while Igla-1 was a transitional simpler first version, so it should be somewhere between #131 9M36 Strela-3 (80) and Igla.

412 Igla SAM, 770, 771 Igla-S SAM - the photo is old Strela-2 - photo 45374 of Igla-1 or 13352 of Verba is better option.
Or there is Igla: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/1a/0f...a99bc0ed33.jpg
BTW, here is Verba with IFF 1L229V module https://www.kbm.ru/local/images/kbm/...1469427260.jpg


351 Mi-6 - according to Russian sources, only part of helicopters were armed, but it was only one MG.

352, 353 Mi-26 - there aren't known armed Mi-26


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