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Hi
Have a question will be usefully if I will done this new icon's for Mi-2 with ATGM's and MMG's for other than only polish OOB will be some benefit from that for the game?

I looked for Mi-2 versions

Mi-2T basic transport (may be armed in 2xPK in rear windows)
Mi-2P Vip transport
Mi-2US (Uzbrojenie Strzeleckie) NS-23mm & 4 PK MMG's on sides installed on small wings 30 examples build because not very effective rebuild to different versions letter. First deliveries to units in November 1973
Mi-2URN (Uzbrojenie Rakietowe Niekierowane) NS-23mm & 2PK in windows & 2x pods with 16 57mm rockets unguided S-5K or S-5M on small wings first build in this version in 1972 some rebuild from Mi-2US 26 build. First delivery January 1973
Mi-2URP (Uzbrojenie Rakietowe Przeciwpancerne) NS-23mm & with Malutka guided rockets 4 rockets on sides + 4 additional inside for fast reloading. Between 1975- 1985 44 build for LWP. Last 3 build in new standard Mi-2URP-G rest in meantime rebuild for this new standard
Mi-2URS(Uzbrojenie Rakietowe Samonaprowadzające) NS-23mm & with Striela-2M rockets build as "fighter" against aircraft's. Experiments starts in 1982 but such specialised helicopter with limited AA capabilities rockets wasn't very usefully so was decided to go with mixed next version. So this variant was only experimental
Mi-2URP-G (URP plus Gad), Know as "Gniewosz-Salamandra" NS-23mm & with combined 4x Malutka and 4x Striela 2M rockets ( 2x Gad pods). Only 3 build as new helicopters rest rebuild from variant Mi-2URP. So they were armed with 4x Malutka'and 4x Striela 2M. Sometimes in units armed with 2x Malutka and Gad pod from one side and 1x pod with 16 57mm rockets S-5K/M from other side that configuration was used because flexibility during training. In 2007 14x helicopters of armed variants were modified with Night vision googles.

Ns-23mm
https://histmag.org/grafika/articles3/mi2/2.jpg

Mars-2 pod
https://histmag.org/grafika/articles3/mi2/3.jpg

Malutka firings pod
https://histmag.org/grafika/articles3/mi2/4.jpg

Malutka and Gad from Gniewosz-Salamandra
https://histmag.org/grafika/articles3/mi2/5.jpg


Mi-2 "Platan" with device to lay minefields carry around 20 mines introduced in 1985 used until 1995

Mi-2D "Przełącznik" for carry HQ with radio devices and space for maps around 25 build since 1974 used until 2000

Mi-2RO (Rozpoznania Ogólnego) for general observation duties with aerial photo also since 1974 first armed only in PK guns in windows since 1977 also build in variant 23mm NS & 2x PK in windows.

Mi-2RM sea rescue unarmed variant & Mi-2RL inland rescue also without weapons but with search light 10 build since 1975

Mi-2RS "Padalec" with specialised equipment to detect atomic radiation levels on battlefield since 1978 letter added also device WDZ-80

Mi-2CH "Hekla with device to WDZ-80 for building a smoke cover for units in 1980 all helicopters Hekla & Padalec were equipped in smoke generators

Mi-2B build for Libya in 1979-80 with western King avionics and communication equipment. 40 build and used as armed version in Libya.

Mi-2 Plus improved engine & western avionics modernisation since 2000 in Poland used only by civilian users.

And here most famous Mi-2 in civilian version which comes to classic 007 story and played in "For your eyes only" Story of the pilot and machine witch English subtitles
https://youtu.be/BtNIvC92AyE

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Don can you also add to Philippine OOB polish

PZL W-3A Sokół

They have 8 and they can carry 2x M60 machine gun in doors on both sides one from each side. Except that they are unarmed and they have them since 2012/2013 exactly since February 2012 according to this article https://www.globalsecurity.org/milit...elicopters.htm I have no exactly icon but one of polish green one can be used
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...cropped%29.jpg


And video where is possible to see how MG is installed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=td1GzqZbj3s

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Lz3-xDfpy...49996326_n.jpg

Czech has also 11 and in icons list is even as special icon in Czech variant camo which is not used in Czech OOB. They have now 10 of them and they are unarmed They buy them in 1995 in exchange for their Mig-29

here photo in Czech painting
https://www.altair.com.pl/files/news...1-159sokol.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...Air_Forces.jpg

Third airforce is Myanmar
has 13 in variant PZL W-3 Sokół unarmed transport version since 1991
here photos in their airforce https://abpic.co.uk/pictures/construction-number/310404

And last military operator is Algeria 8 helicopters since 2012 acording to this source https://www.helis.com/database/model...-3/%20?filc=DZ Variant W-3A transport version so probably MG is what is installed like in Philippine version.
Photos of Algerian Desert variant of Sokół https://www.airplane-pictures.net/ph...pzl-w-3-sokol/

here list of users https://www.helis.com/database/model...-3/%20?filc=DZ

And official list of repairs in their helicopters in different airforces by PZL Świdnik https://www.pzlswidnik.pl/en/wsparci...cje-techniczne

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China last year unveiled their Z-8L Heavy Lift Helo.

Recently, Chinese State Media showed a lineup of Z-8Ls waiting for take off:

https://i.imgur.com/lizl2he.jpg

Currently, we have the Z-8A (Unit 128) in the game.

Differences between the Z-8A and the Z-8L are:

The L model is wider so it can accommodate a Bobcat ATV (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0pdb4RRpNo)

The A model is a 13 ton class helicopter, while the L model is 15 ton class.

L has better countermeasures such as RWRs and IR decoys.

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The Chinese introduced the Z-20 into service in October 2019.

https://i.imgur.com/9IkwTt8.jpg

The Z-20 is basically a Chineseized advanced version of the S-70C-2 Blackhawks (Unit 122) that China acquired in 1984 before Tiannamen.

It's not a straight Blackhawk clone though.

It has a 5 bladed rotor (Blackhawk has 4-bladed rotor), more powerful engines (2400 SHP vs 2000 shp on Blackhawk), and various improved technologies allowing it to work above 13,200 ft.

Recently, Z-20s have been seen with external weapons pylons, similar to the Blackhawk.

https://i.imgur.com/OcjlQNY.jpg

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Key.Aero is reporting that the first of 12 AH-1Zs ordered by the Kingdom of Bahrain in 2019 has been completed. It will be shipped to Bahrain sometime next year, but no exact date yet. Am I correct in assuming this goes in the Gulf States OB file?

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Yes. Thanks

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Poland has also Blackhawks 4x S-70i already but only in Special forces since 20/12/2019 so in reality January 2020 will be correct. And now have buy 4 more in 2021 also for special forces
https://www.gov.pl/web/obrona-narodowa/black-hawk

https://radar.rp.pl/smiglowce-dla-sp...ly-black-hawki

https://i.gremicdn.pl/image/free/314...:390,enlarge:1

As you can see this 8x helicopters are armed with guns in doors from both sides

There are also 3x S-70i unarmed Blackhawk's in Police in dark blue colour
since November 2018
https://twitter.com/MSWiA_GOV_PL/sta...licji%2F257107
https://wmeritum.pl/wp-content/uploa...wk-750x375.jpg

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Rare and not typical - if it is added, it should be separated from ordinary army helicopters (say, 221 Light Attack Helicopter class)

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Or an X3 radio code would do as a "not for the AI" item.

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Could be - but human players also should know, that it is not an ordinary workhorse of Polish air cavalry, more luring, than W-3 Sokół...

And now for something completely different:
Japan

363, 364, 951 OH-64DJP Apache - according to Polish monographic article ("Nowa Technika Wojskowa" 6/2018), the first was given to military tests in 3/06, and several were used in military exercises from in 8/07, but first helicopters were delivered to regular combat unit only in 3/10 and achieved readiness by 12/10 [now 1/06].
Very rare machine - only 13 made (11 in Japan, throughout 2007-14).

AH-64DJP was Boeing's designation, but Japanese forces call it just "AH-64D" (not OH). The same says Japanese Wikipedia, according to the translator https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/AH-64D...83%9C%E3%82%A6

Same for 359, 362, 366 OH-1S Cobra - https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/AH-1_%...83%96%E3%83%A9 says AH-1S.

Same for 360, 950 OH-1N - https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/UH-1_(...9%BA%E6%A9%9F) says UH-1 in Japanese context, however there are only UH-1B, H and J used. Japan isn't mentioned as UH-1N Twin Huey user here https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/UH-1N_...83%BC%E3%82%A4

OH-1 is a different Japanese helicopter (unit 343)