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Maerlande May 3rd, 2010 02:23 PM

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Personally, I prefer PBEM for large games that take a long time. It's especially helpful if you have iffy internet connections. Direct connect has one trouble. If your internet goes down you can't work on your turn. For lot's of players, that's not an issue but I live in a small town with pretty crappy phone lines and it's a big deal for me.

Doing a huge late game turn and having internet drop halfway on direct connect is not much fun.

Tonno May 3rd, 2010 05:03 PM

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Guys u helped me alot...I will tray to play some games to see how that works...

I have red a lot topics,I thought that I have a lot of xp and that I would kick *** in multyplayer, but damn there are some nasty players out there...

Again thx a lot for helping me out...see ya┬┤ll on the battlefield...:D

Help...I can not find savedgames on my dom3 directory...:(

Gandalf Parker May 3rd, 2010 05:42 PM

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Linux? Windows? Mac? which version thereof?

Maerlande May 3rd, 2010 06:22 PM

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Windows 7 does annoying things with the save folder. The trick is install dominions to c:\dominions and NOT to the program files directory. Because Win7 locks that one.

Ballbarian May 3rd, 2010 09:13 PM

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Same problem with Vista.

Jarkko May 4th, 2010 12:52 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Maerlande (Post 743686)
Personally, I prefer PBEM for large games that take a long time. It's especially helpful if you have iffy internet connections. Direct connect has one trouble. If your internet goes down you can't work on your turn.

Not true. As long as you have made contact with the host, you can take your turn off-line. Same as PBeM, but without the hassle of transfering files. In fact, doing direct contact requires a much less stable internet connection than PBeM, because you need to be connected to the net about 10 seconds at most (and that if you are sending your turns from a steam-powered lap-top using a wirelss modem that has an upload speed of about 100kb/sec; anything faster and you need to be connected for a much shorter time :) ) as there is no need to first connect to the E-mail service provider and then download/upload the turn.

Ie, connect to the host machine, after turn is downloaded you can exit the game. Get back to game when you have time, click Continue Game from main menu and select the game your are playing. Take your turn, click end turn when finished. Connect back to the host, you will see the message "2h file uploaded" (ie your turn was uploaded to the host), and you can again disconnect if you so wish.

Personally I have an old (Bah, steampower, what modern humbug is that? Mice on a cartwheel was enough to power machines in my youth, and they should be enough now!) computer running in the garage as a Dominions3 host for the games run on the Paradox forums. It can handle two games at a time (a third game freezes it up, and the machine is streamlined to only host Dominions3 :smirk: ) so nothing stellar. I am pretty certain there are quite a few such "garage machines" hosting Dominions3 all over the world, not to mention Gandalf Parkers excellent service :up:, so I would dare to say *most* MP games actually are played as direct connect games. However, here on this forum, PBeM is the standard for longer lasting games, and that is due to the excellent service provided by Llamabeast and his Llamaserver :up:

I like Llamaserver PBeM games (especially the reminder e-mails Llamaserver is sending me when I am about to stall are golden :) ), but non-Llamaserver PBeM games are not that hot IMO. Direct connect games are just so fast and hassle-free to handle compared to PBeM games in general.

Tonno May 4th, 2010 04:15 AM

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I have windows 7...Can i create my own folder with name savedgames???:D

I think this is a bit risky metod but I believe in your experience,so I will try the thing that mr.Jarkko says...

Ballbarian May 4th, 2010 08:17 AM

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I am not familiar with Windows 7, but I am under the impression that it is very similar to Vista in the way it bungles installs. See the following post in the FAQ:

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showp...91&postcount=2

Hope that helps. :)

Gandalf Parker May 4th, 2010 09:17 AM

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In all fairness, it should be mentioned that the arrangement has well known security reasons. As a NetCop I would feel lax in not recommending that it might be best to learn to live with the arrangment rather than go around it.

That said, Im not sure how it can be done with Dom3. The files arrangement is much in line with Linux or OSx but not quite close enough for me to have any ideas here. This might be what we have to do for Dom3. But I at least I would recommend that you wouldnt start applying the fix to everything on your machine.

That which security shall do, the search for easy administration shall undo.

Tonno May 5th, 2010 03:31 AM

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Ok I have made savedgames folder on windows 7...

Here is the tip...
As I red that we can tray to instal the Dom3 file out side of Program fiels, so in c\ ...
After that just turn on the game and make a game,save it and turn off the game,go to the file of Dom3 and u will see savedgames folder...


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