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Imp April 22nd, 2021 03:59 AM

Dogfight videos
 
Thought this might be of interest to some.
This one is F22 vs Rafale training video from gun cam. For part 2 which is the analysis click on the link below the video.
Has other content, don't get put off by the start or French humour.

Gives you a real good idea of just how hard these guys have to work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVBhl6qZDNg

Suhiir April 22nd, 2021 07:31 PM

Re: Dogfight videos
 
You always need to take the engagement situation into account when watching such videos.

Is the F-22 designed/intended to be a "dogfight" aircraft? No.
It's intended to attack from outside visual and radar (due to it's reduced radar signature it can see further then it can be seen from via radar) range.

Put anything into a situation it's not designed for it will perform sub optimally.

DRG April 22nd, 2021 09:57 PM

Re: Dogfight videos
 
Like anything. The best sumo wrestler in the world is not going to outrun the best runner and the best runner isn't going to stand a chance against that sumo in a wrestling match

Imp April 23rd, 2021 12:01 AM

Re: Dogfight videos
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Suhiir (Post 850126)
You always need to take the engagement situation into account when watching such videos.

Is the F-22 designed/intended to be a "dogfight" aircraft? No.
It's intended to attack from outside visual and radar (due to it's reduced radar signature it can see further then it can be seen from via radar) range.

Put anything into a situation it's not designed for it will perform sub optimally.

That's why this guy is quite good he says as much & is impartial which is unusual.
Did not realise its common in a guns only scenario to try & take other kills despite the fact you cannot claim them.
I was surprised the Rafale could get down to 80 knots. He wasn't as he has flown them but did comment it was outside its performance envelope.


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