"Painless" Doc Jhonson, or how to kill your commander
 

Twiceborn looks like a good deal, but i cant figure a way to kill enchant bearer with minimal risc of afflictions. Drowning doesn't seem to work - he drowns ok but doesn't ressurects. Barbarians tend to be crude surgeons leaving me with blind or feebleminded or armess/legless wights. What do you suggest?

Re: "Painless" Doc Jhonson, or how to kill your commander
 

Some consider it an exploit but a bog beast/hydra set to guard has been used. I had much the same issue with twiceborn way back when..

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showt...wiceborn+crone

-ssj

Re: "Painless" Doc Jhonson, or how to kill your commander
 

Thank you for a good idea. But what's with really tough guys like Agarthan Oracles? They don't die from poison in a reasonable time.

Re: "Painless" Doc Jhonson, or how to kill your commander
 

You could give them a disease with a Fever Fetish. Once they're diseased they won't heal between battles/turns anymore. Couple that with the poison trick and they're bound to wind up dead soonish at which point the disease won't affect them any more.

Re: "Painless" Doc Jhonson, or how to kill your commander
 

I should note all of these methods are likely to hand you a pile of afflictions. I'd think barbs are 'safer'.

Re: "Painless" Doc Jhonson, or how to kill your commander
 

Aside from poison, I think a single soul slay or lost magic duel might have low risk?
Cast regeneration first if possible?

Re: "Painless" Doc Jhonson, or how to kill your commander
 

So, everything boils down to "one powerfull blow" vs "lots of small hp losses"

Re: "Painless" Doc Jhonson, or how to kill your commander
 

Burden of Time.

:)

Re: "Painless" Doc Jhonson, or how to kill your commander
 

Why do you want to change form anyway? Twiceborn is kind of an insurance policy against death, seems a shame to waste your first life deliberately.

Re: "Painless" Doc Jhonson, or how to kill your commander
 

Upkeep costs.