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War.... (Historical: 9/11 discussion thread)
By the Maker, what did we just witness?
[ June 13, 2003, 06:45: Message edited by: General Talashar ] |
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what war ? where ?
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I gotta say..
WELL F@CK ME DEAD I can't believe what I'm seeing. |
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This is unreal. The World Trade Centers are either burning or collapsing, The Pentagon has been hit, looks like a hit at the Whitehouse as well...
Bush just evac Sarasota Florida... If there is one thing I know about War, it's this; Someone is gonna win, Someone has to lose, and nothing can remain the same afterwards. [ June 13, 2003, 06:47: Message edited by: General Talashar ] |
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I suggest that you simply do not believe it. The media is full of misinformation all the time. I saw that long ago.
Lonnie Courtney Clay |
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A total of two commercial jetlines, believe to be hijacked 737's, hit the World Trade Center sometime around 8:45-9:00 am EST. About an hour later The Pentagon was hit with an explosive device, one eye witness believes it was a helicopter. Shortly thereafter the White House, The Treasury Bulding, and the Capitol were evacuated. There is also a fire raging on the National Mall.
Shortly after these a secondary explosion hit the World Trade Center and half of one of the buldings fell into the street. After that another explosion hit The Pentagon. All Air Traffic has been grounded in the US per the FAA, The Sears Tower in Chicago has been evacuated, and NASDAQ and Wall Street are closed. Whoever did this is really going to feel a world of hurt shortly... ------------------ Sarge is coming... Richard Arnesen Director of Covert Ops Shrapnel Games http://www.shrapnelgames.com |
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Did you guys see that shot where the plane crashes into the WTC? From the look of it, it was an AIRLINER, at least a 737!
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Richard you were 3 minutes in front of me!
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Richard:
Whoever did this is really going to feel a world of hurt shortly... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> As well they should. |
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Car bomb at the State Dept also
Scary, glad I live in a little Po-Dunk town |
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Both Towers have collapsed... carbomb at state department. Apparant helicopter crash at Pentagon. The fire thing. Streets being evacuated. Germwarfare labs on full alert.
First aircraft confirmed 747 American Airlines flight 11 from Boston to Los Angeles. I might have misheard some of the details on that but def American Airlines flight 11. Another report of a 767 near Pittsburg. [This message has been edited by Cyrien (edited 11 September 2001).] |
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Keep getting updates on this at work. All kinds of targets across the US are getting hit and no-one knows yet who is to blame.
I hope no-one does anything silly in retaliation until all the facts are known. ------------------ SE4 Code: L GdY $ Fr- C- Sd T!+ Sf-- Tcp-- A% M>M+ MpD! RV Pw Fq+ Nd- Rp+ G- /SE4 Code Go to my meagre SEIV pages to generate your own code. |
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For those that know and care, Admiral lives and works in New York. He's ok though. I talked to him.
Geoschmo |
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Another plane confirmed down near Camp David in Maryland.
------------------ Sarge is coming... Richard Arnesen Director of Covert Ops Shrapnel Games http://www.shrapnelgames.com |
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i would like to hope that the terrorists brought pilots with them, and they were the ones flying the plane. I would like to hope that when faced with a choice of undesireable ways to die, a US pilot would not willingly fly his plane into the trade center.
I also am very unclear on what the heck happened at the pentagon. I hear a bomb went off, i hear a smaller plane crashed into a corner of the building, i hear the same plane crashed onto a helipad, i hear a hilicopter blew up. if i can throw in my own disinformation, i am guessing they tried to crash a plane into it, but the pentagon is probably one of the most defended military instilations in the world, and we shot it down. and it crashed nearby. and we dont want to talk about it. maybe. |
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I've heard that more hijacked planes have been sighted heading for other significant targets. I also heard that there are fighter planes circling wachington, ready to shoot them (Presumably some of thm with passengers onboard?).
I'd hate to have the job of those pilots. It certainly brings our little wargames into perspective=-( *Dogscoff isn't far from several major military targets himself. (UK though) ------------------ SE4 Code: L GdY $ Fr- C- Sd T!+ Sf-- Tcp-- A% M>M+ MpD! RV Pw Fq+ Nd- Rp+ G- /SE4 Code Go to my meagre SEIV pages to generate your own code. |
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It is horrible. I live about a mile from the WTC in New York, just across the river in Jersey. People are on the streets, everybody is talking and coming together in the face of disaster. I literally saw the second WTC tower collapse in front of my eyes. CNN reports people jumping off the building (110 stories) right before the collapse. All airports in the US are closed for the first time since WW II.
All phone circuits are overloaded. A buddy of mine works in the WTC, I sure hope he was no there this morning, I can't get through over the phone. Primary suspect is the Osama bin Laden group at the moment. Will keep you posted. |
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This brings into new light a comment from one of the original "band of brothers" that aired on HBO on Sunday. The intervieweee said that it is hard for modern day U.S. citizens to understand how they felt after Pearl Habor. Well, I fear the death toll will rise beyond 2,400 (Peal Harbor) today in the U.S. ..and words cannot express what I feel right now...
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i would not be to concerned dogscoff, i have not heard any major religions refering to the UK as the 'great satan' lately, nor have i noticed any propensity to prefer military targets.
[This message has been edited by Puke (edited 11 September 2001).] |
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read this over at DSC first.. I can't get to any news sites, so I just hoped it was a real sick joke.
then I turned on the TV. Well, it's still really sick all right. http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon9.gif Phoenix-D |
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Tampa_Gamer:
Well, I fear the death toll will rise beyond 2,400 (Peal Harbor) today in the U.S. ..and words cannot express what I feel right now... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> if you will pardon the humor at this grim time, its not exactly the same now. now, we are the MEE in real life. the hatred of every minority group in the world is directed at our nation, and while we provide most of the food exported to those countries, their people engineer private wars against us. we can not direct our hatred at any one nation, because nations do not oppose us. we can not pin down an easy target, because it is a decentralized foe who hates us not for economic or industrial reasons, but for philosophical ones. I dare say, what i am most in wonder about is what this will cause our war against terrorist states to evolve into. will our tactics change? will our culture change? will we be forced to become the monsters that the world sees us as? |
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True enough, Puke. I doubt I'm in danger but this is enough to make anyone edgy.
That said those statments are often directed to "The West" rather than the US specifically. It is wrong to jump to conclusions, but it's hard to imagine anyone else capable, other than these (supposedly) muslim extremists. Who else has suicide attacks as a trademark? Who else has such a hate-on for the US? Ex Soviets? Doubt it, they have enough problems. Anti- capitalists don't have the resources and the vast majority of that movement is peaceful. I really hope George Dubbya's response will be controlled and informed. I'm not in the mood for a World War. (BTW, the word "supposedly" was for "muslim", not "extremist." I don't think anyone can doubt that this is extreme.) ------------------ SE4 Code: L GdY $ Fr- C- Sd T!+ Sf-- Tcp-- A% M>M+ MpD! RV Pw Fq+ Nd- Rp+ G- /SE4 Code Go to my meagre SEIV pages to generate your own code. |
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Dogscoff:
I've heard reports they're closing down central London as a precaution. Since you're UK, can you confirm that? The carbomb at the State Dept. was a false report, as apparently were any reports of White House or Capital attacks. The Pentagon attack seems to have been a small commuter plane into the southern face--which has since collapsed. There are still airplanes missing and/or unaccounted for. (One may have just landed in Cleveland). Much of the US is locking down. I live near Detroit, right on the border with Canada, which has now closed down. Federal buildings are either closed or on heavy alert, everywhere. The Sears Tower, I'm told, has been evacuated, as I'm sure are many other large targets. In other words, no one knows for certain what's going on. Lovely. Puke, you're right. We are the MEE. LL |
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On the average day the WTC has 50k ppl in it. Can only hope that the morning time reduces the numbers drastically.... But somehow I don't hold out to much hope...
rough estimates say possibly 35k. PS: US military is on Threatcon Delta... highest level... <EDIT> Just to make the distinctions clear... THREATCON NORMAL - No threat of terrorist activity is present. THREATCON ALPHA - There is a general threat of possible terrorist activity against installations, building locations, ooc and/or personnel, the nature and extent of which are unpredictable. THREATCON BRAVO - There is an increased and more predictable threat of terrorist activity even though no particular target has been identified. THREATCON CHARLIE - An incident has occurred or intelligence has been received indicating that some form of terrorist action is imminent. THREATCON DELTA - A terrorist attack has occurred or intelligence has been received that action against a specific location is likely. Further this is not Defcon. Defcon is a military alert readiness in the face of possible war... Threatcon is security levels and anti-terrorist actions. [This message has been edited by Cyrien (edited 11 September 2001).] |
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Can't confirm or dny much, all my data is from this forum and a few sites which are slow due to traffic and/or haven't been updated in a few hours.
Last I heard the London Stock exchange had ben shut down. I imagine the airports are a mess as well. Haven't heard of an evacuation though. (4 international airports in London) If you can get to a TV or radio, you'd be better off with those, but for those who can't: CNN Not too much info here. BBC. Good site, but traffic is heavy. You may not get through. The times. Crap paper, but the site is accessible and has quite a bit of data. ------------------ SE4 Code: L GdY $ Fr- C- Sd T!+ Sf-- Tcp-- A% M>M+ MpD! RV Pw Fq+ Nd- Rp+ G- /SE4 Code Go to my meagre SEIV pages to generate your own code. |
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You're right, MEE
------------------ SE4 Code: L GdY $ Fr- C- Sd T!+ Sf-- Tcp-- A% M>M+ MpD! RV Pw Fq+ Nd- Rp+ G- /SE4 Code Go to my meagre SEIV pages to generate your own code. [This message has been edited by dogscoff (edited 11 September 2001).] |
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Sorry for multiple Posts. Update on London status:
"Overseas, the London Stock Exchange evacuated its building but said trade continued from an alternate site. " I don't think London has been evacuated, just the one building. ------------------ SE4 Code: L GdY $ Fr- C- Sd T!+ Sf-- Tcp-- A% M>M+ MpD! RV Pw Fq+ Nd- Rp+ G- /SE4 Code Go to my meagre SEIV pages to generate your own code. |
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I suggest that everyone in the world should call upon GOD by whatever name they believe in. If this is done then I think help will be given.
In America sing GOD BLESS AMERICA. You might also occasionally taunt the devil by whistling major/col Bogy, the theme song from 'the bridge over the river Kwai'. If you criticize what I just said, then in your post you had better be able to say GOD HELP US ALL Lonnie Courtney Clay |
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I am Praying for you guys in America during this terrible, terrible day.
Craig Toronto, Canada |
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i hear the west bank is calling upon god.. and giving thanks.
****ers. |
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In case you were wondering, it is possible that I am psychic, at least that is what a horoscope I got said. I have been posting whatever comes to mind. I have been doing searches for whatever I am inspired to type in. I guess that you could say that I am GOD(s?) rubber ducky.
Rubber Ducky You're my joy When I squeeze you you make noise Rubber ducky I'm so awfully fond of you Life as a duck sucks. I am as much in the dark as the rest of you. Lonnie Courtney Clay |
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just got this. thought it was 'cute.'
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customers observing anything that would appear out of the ordinary
Yeah. I do admit that I am reasonably intelligent even when not "inspired" if that is the proper word. As I mentioned repeatedly before, I do not necessarily get out of the computer keyboard what I type in, and the page is often changed by the time I get to the bottom. I eventually had enough sense to stop fighting it and just let it do whatever it wanted. This reduced the disorientation significantly. Lonnie Courtney Clay |
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The tune was Yellow Rose of Texas.
It is now Yankee Doodle Dandy. Ha Ha Lonnie Courtney Clay |
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Back to Yellow Rose of Texas.
I suppose that means that as a Christian President Bush should be trusted. Lonnie Courtney Clay |
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LCC:
what war ? where ?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> More like "act of war". ------------------ -- "What do -you- want?" "I'd like to live -just- long enough to be there when they cut off your head and stick it on a pike as a warning to the next ten generations that some favors come with too high a price. I would look up into your lifeless eyes and wave like this..." *waggle* "...can you and your associates arrange that for me, Mr. Morden?" |
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Laugh while you can, better check to see who is drawing your own cartoon strip.
Lonnie Courtney Clay |
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Does Anyone have a midi file link for GOD BLESS AMERICA ?
Lonnie Courtney Clay |
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My godness...
THAT is what i call terrorism. What a bunch of F@ckers... I heard an TV that may be 35000 people was inside the towers... thousands of deaths.. My condolencies to US people... And I was planning to pass christmas in NY... ------------------ "Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down tho their level, then beat you with experience". |
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All religions agree on the following :
1) Humans have souls 2) Souls are judged at death 3) what happens next depends on the judgement I do not recall precisely what that horoscope said, but I have to pay like this for something I did before. I do not know what religion I followed before, but whatever it was, I should have believed in Valhalla rather than reincarnation. Lonnie Courtney Clay |
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That is not an endorsement of the Norse religion, just an observation that what your judgement may be depends upon the judge.
Lonnie Courtney Clay |
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I’m shocked by this barbaric act of terrorism! My thoughts and prayers are with the victims and the families of the victims. My respect goes to the brave men and women of the emergency services who risked (and lost?) there lives while they went in where others were running from. They are true heroes.
Frankfurt, Germany P.S.: Update: 8 pm local time, all church bells in my country are ringing in memory of the victims... [This message has been edited by [K126]Mephisto (edited 11 September 2001).] |
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If you believe that there is one and only one GOD then you had better be prepared for judgement by the rules of your GOD.
There have always been multiple religions. It is best to leave the business of GOD up to GOD and not attempt to meddle in GOD's affairs. Lonnie Courtney Clay |
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[ June 13, 2003, 06:57: Message edited by: General Talashar ] |
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My God, all I want to do is wake up.......this can't be real.....
on an off note the one thing that struck me in the tv pictures is that cars and buses were still running, still going somewhere....here (in my city) the garbage is still picked up on time, etc...how can anybody be doing anything remotely normal in the face of something so horrible is kinda strange (as is my posting I guess....) Even though I am a confirmed agnostic/deist my prayers go with all the families/people who are offended.. (Deathstalker.....wishing there was a real superman to save the day....) |
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A pretty good link that gets updated about every 15 minutes:
http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/09/11/chr...ack/index.html |
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Of all the things....
I watched a replay on ABC of the people running... a NYC cop: "MAKE A ****ING HOLE" Just another first on local tv... [ June 13, 2003, 06:56: Message edited by: General Talashar ] |
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< heavy sigh >
Sometimes being a cynical pessimist is an advantage. The only thing that surprised me about today's news was the amount of coordination shown in pulling off so many attacks in such a short time period. Terrorism experts have been predicting that this could happen for years. I turned off the news coverage when they got to the talking heads propounding What Should Be Done Now, and the man-in-the-street reactions. "Rumors will be spreading today like mildew in a damp basement." - Dan Rather |
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Deathstalker:
...how can anybody be doing anything remotely normal in the face of something so horrible is kinda strange <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> not to do so would be to give in to terrorism. <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Joss21: And I was planning to pass christmas in NY...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I hope this does not change your plans. |
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