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Paulo_Vicente October 24th, 2007 08:04 PM

Can I queue orders for future turns?
 
Hello everyone, I've got a small question about the interface and movement.
Is there a key or a command that lets you queue several movement orders for future turns?
Can I "build" a route for an army going from my capital to the front instead of giving it a movement order each turn?

Micah October 24th, 2007 08:17 PM

Re: Can I queue orders for future turns?
 
No.

You can make some rituals auto-cast monthly by using the "M" hotkey when a mage is selected, but no other order that isn't monthly by default (like research, preach, blood hunt, etc) can be queued.

Really though, pathing reinforcements is pretty quick and easy compared to everything else that goes into a turn, so it's not that big a deal.

RobO October 25th, 2007 08:17 AM

Re: Can I queue orders for future turns?
 
I'd certainly like to be able to specify a move command into any accessible territory, even if it lasted several turns. My dominion doesn't have to be all that large before I forget where I intended an army to go from one turn to the next. Esp. if I have to do something else between turns. I think this is very close to being "Need to have".

Being able to specify combined commands is "Nice to have", not "Need to have". For example: Go to that province, then Search.

Edi October 25th, 2007 08:35 AM

Re: Can I queue orders for future turns?
 
The problem with province based movement and queueing movement commands is that if an event happens in a province so that its ownership changes (barbarians, vinemen etc) or someone else conquers it, all commanders and their units which would move thorugh that province would have to have their movement orders reset, especially if their strategic move would allow them to normally bypass that province instead of having it as the destination of a turn.

I suspect coding the path determination algorithm would not be trivial since you also need to account for terrain, strat move of units in the army etc.

Games like Heroes of Might and Magic, Age of Wonders etc had it different, since the movement system is different and blocked paths are easier to check with fairly simple algorithms. You could do similar shifting path algorithms as those games, but this is something that Johan K would need to do and I suspect it falls into the category of "not interesting". That means its likelihood of being implemented is low. As I recall, vectoring has been asked for in the past with no result.

RobO October 25th, 2007 09:48 AM

Re: Can I queue orders for future turns?
 
Well, there are ways around that - e.g. requiring the player to select a destination for each move (using Alt+Click or something like that). Ofc. you should only be able to do this through friendly provinces. And resetting the move if an intermediate destination changes hands, or if the unit enters combat, is fine with me (or keep it simple and let the player deal with that). This should remove the need for coding a pathfinding algorithm.

I just want to have the game remember the destination of each unit that has a way to go for me.

Zeldor October 25th, 2007 11:52 AM

Re: Can I queue orders for future turns?
 
Exactly, we do not need any pathfinding. If someone wants move orders for 10 turns he must give separate 10 orders, step by step. I would also want to queue constructing magic items.

Ironhawk October 25th, 2007 01:45 PM

Re: Can I queue orders for future turns?
 
Queuing of various kinds has been asked for many times, but never delivered. I dont think you should get your hopes up

RobO October 25th, 2007 03:25 PM

Re: Can I queue orders for future turns?
 
Quote:

Ironhawk said:
Queuing of various kinds has been asked for many times, but never delivered. I dont think you should get your hopes up

Well, it doesn't hurt to voice another opinion. And it would make playing the game a good deal easier.


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