The map that will never be
 

Hi,

Sometimes during the development of dom3 I started to do a map, but since we made a random generator and some Lutes maps, I never finished it. The main problem is that I tend to be pedantic and I make maps in the same way I make sprites, pixel by pixel http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif Not all the time, but often enough that I get tired of mapmaking.

As I'm finished with the serpent cult (hmm, I forgot to make that undead hydra my brother suggested) I felt like doing something else. The recent map discussions and the interesting semirandom (that I didn't get to work properly http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif ) inspired me to start up the old map.

The map is supposed to be a east-west wrap around, originally made for about 10 EA nations with fixed starting positions, but a free start version will of course also be made.

http://ulm.illwinter.com/dom3/wrapmap.jpg

Here is the reason it will never get ready http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

http://ulm.illwinter.com/dom3/niefel.jpg

And here is one of the home sites of the nations in question.

http://ulm.illwinter.com/dom3/marv.jpg

I hope I will finish it some day. I have worked on it for about 12 hours today, so I'm making progress http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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You make this pixel by pixel http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/redface.gif
You are very talentfull... But you are totally crazy http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

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KO,
You are insane, but it is looking beautiful. I can't wait for you to finish it so that I can play a few dozen games on it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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> You make this pixel by pixel

I do copy stuff, like mountains and trees, but then I suddenly feel like doing a rice field for Yomi, or the Great Irminsul for Ulm, and then I'm stuck for an hour or two. Perhaps three http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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Excellent work. Please dont let it rot on your machine.

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Yes, it looks like it will be very nice!

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Amazing. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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Noice. Hope the thread title is incorrect.

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Yeah, I wanted to call shenanigans because I see copy&paste templates for mountains and trees in the oceans... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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Ahhh the little storage areas in big blank areas. Ive used those. And when they start seeming stale then you slightly rework them so you can keep pasting.

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KER-BUMP!

I was just wondering if this gem got a little love since the patch was pretty much finished.

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nice looking map!

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A bit further since last time, but I've been slightly preoccupied lately. Most of my energy has gone into school (or rather sleeping when returning home from school) and recently our other IW project. I'm a bit stuck Dom3-wise, waiting for the crashed computers to be restored to enable patchwork again. I have done some map-work while waiting. Added shades under most forests and smoothed mountain edges.

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Did anyone else hear that grenade go off?

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Grenade? Aren't you being the conservative one, Gandalf http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif.

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I've been making some mapping progress today. Thought I should post a screenshot to encourage myself http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

http://ulm.illwinter.com/ctismap.jpg

Edit: here is one more.

http://ulm.illwinter.com/marvmap.jpg

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wow! nice! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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these are beautiful i can't imagine doing a MAP pixel by pixel. You should post a % complete thing like how Zepath has done in his Warhammer map.

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I have no idea as to how complete it is. I don't work in a structured way. Hmm, I could perhaps appreciate how much different things are made.

90% of Land mass is made.
10-50% of nicing up land and sea.
75-90% of forests are probably finished.
90% of mountains I would guess.
50% of borders.
5-25% of features and sites are made, depending on how much inspiration I get. Most likely 10% are made. This is the timeconsuming part, but also the fun part.
0% of mapstuff, preset sites provinces etc.

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C'tis update.

http://ulm.illwinter.com/ctismap2.jpg

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The map is not 180 MB, just the layered stuff

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This is a fantastic looking map, I hope it is eventually complete and appears in a future patch.

I would play alot of games on it.

I also imagine it will get used in MP alot as well.

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This really does look great, Kristoffer. I love the way you blended the marshlands over the plain yellow at the mouth of that river. All the ruins look outstanding as well.

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Whole map without stuff and crap in the sea. A few more sites added. Some new forests I did not expect yesterday.

http://ulm.illwinter.com/nevermap.jpg

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Looking extremely good. I love all the thematic starting positions, reminds me of the excellent Dawn of Dominions map.

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Ermorian regions, before the fall.

http://ulm.illwinter.com/ermap.jpg

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very nice looking. especially like the reflecting pools they built in the ocean http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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I'm actually starting to believe this map will be finished http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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Hurray!

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Awsome Map....what kind of specials might be on it???

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Any and all http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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I'm very excited. I hope that works for encouragement http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

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O-Ho! Does this mean we actually get Blood Sites on this map? Blood for the Blood Pretender?

I always wondered what sort of place provided a steady stream of virgin sacrfices, and how I could get me a piece of that action [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Woman1.gif[/img] [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Woman2.gif[/img] [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Woman3.gif[/img] [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Woman4.gif[/img] [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/icon30.gif[/img] http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/eek.gif

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IMHO "any and all" means "any one of the existing sites, and all the interesting ones", not "anything you ever wanted and all the things we never actually implemented in the game".

That said, the new patch will add some sites.

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Looking downright awesome. Keep at it!

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Your mast location is SoCal. That makes me think that you are already there. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

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http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Sacrifical, yes.

Virgins? Mmmmmmaybeeee...

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Hilarious response.

I concede your point.

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Hey KO,

Just tossing a few ideas for the map you're creating which looks like it's evolving nicely.

1) Mixing uncommon terrains such as forest with swamp or farm with deep sea will allow you to be more creative with the map.
2) Adding some insignificant independent commanders using the forum names from popular posters.
3) Having some independents on the inside of a castle while others are patrolling on the outside. This can be added after the #patrol command arrives. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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multiple .maps in various game styles that all go to the same image

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KO,

I not going to allow you to easily escape after you exhibited that very fine looking, but incomplete map. About every month or so I'm going to bump this.

This is the bump for November.

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Thanks http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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Hmm, some new images might be in place. I have worked a bit today, but most of this was made a month ago.

http://ulm.illwinter.com/dom3/map_erm_arco.jpg
http://ulm.illwinter.com/dom3/map_heim.jpg
http://ulm.illwinter.com/dom3/map_kailasa.jpg

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Nice details! I am looking forward to this map whenever it is finished.

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I've made some progress today. Still a lot to do, but I made a tga version and made a playable map file. Currenty without seas. The finished one will have about 250-275 provinces.

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Damn that map looks downright sexy.

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I like NTJedi's idea of having independents named for Forum stalwarts. There's some good potential for humor in that idea.

Map looks very nice. The only criticism I can offer is that some of the coastlines are a bit too smooth to look natural.

-- Mal

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Shhh! We don't want him to rework all that coastline! We want the map!

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I don't know about everyone else, but I would pay money for a map of each era that had fixed starting locations that evolved in each era. (IOW, complete maps.) The game has awesome flavor, and to see it played out on a map would just be awesometastic. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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> The only criticism I can offer is that some of the coastlines are a bit too smooth to look natural.

I havn't started on the sea yet.