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NullAshton said:
Sweet, we should try that. Coordinated intimidate!  Even demons run from us!
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Trouble being that it needs three Intimidate monkeys to pull off - good, solid Intimidate Monkey's - as the opposed check quickly heads up as the opponents go up in level:
"1d20 + character level or Hit Dice + target’s Wisdom bonus [if any] + target’s modifiers on saves against fear" - Hit dice increase base saves (and thus are effectively counted 1.333... to 1.5 times) and Wisdom adds to saves (and thus is counted twice). A CR 1 Heavy Horse has 3 HD, a +4 Will save, and a +1 Wisdom Bonus - and is thus running at 1d20+8. A CR 5 Dire Lion has 8 HD, a +7 Will save, and a +1 Wisdom Bonus - and is thus running at 1d20+16; a CR 10 Young Adult Brass Dragon has 16 HD, +12 Will save, and a +2 Wisdom modifier - and thus is running at 1d20+30 (math may be off due to differences on the fact that it's a fear-based will save, rather than a striaght will save). How high do you think you can get three characters to coax their Intimidate modifiers? And even then, there are quite a few critters that are simply immune to fear - completely - and will be unaffected by Intimidate. If everyone has focused on Intimidate....