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				 Re: The Virtue 
 Does he also consider lab burning down, plague, etc... to be very bad and to not occur on turn 2?
 I'll admit, i've played a lot of turns 1-12 because i like to repeatedly kit-bash a nation through the first year to test indie expansion strategies and research strategies.  And at least the lab burning on turn 2 happened in the latest version.  And I've seen a capitol plague on turn 2 or 3.  (In fact, I had Luck 3 when i had the lab burn on turn 2...).  Either of those are game enders.
 
 I can't remember if i'd patched yet when i got Barbs on turn 2, but i've definitely seen the AI be hit by barbs on turn 2 in the latest patch.  (Poor Agartha never got to do anything!)
 
 (Reports in that thread of turn 2 indie attacks are no more than a year old, so it can't be that many patches ago...  They say turn 1... i use turn 2 to mean events you see at the start of turn 2).
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