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404 BPzV Svatava - it was produced from 1988 (now: 1/98). According to http://forum.valka.cz/viewtopic.php/t/18501 , withdrawn in 2009 (now: 12/120). Missiles should be #145 Malutka, like in normal BMP-1/BVP-1 (semi-automatic Malutka-P wasn't fired from BMP launcher - it could be theoretically used, but in manual mode, without increased accuracy). It had 6-tube SD (now: SD:3)

It was an armoured reconnaissance vehicle - formations 96, 97 Support APC should be IMO renamed according to real role of the vehicle (and dates should be changed according to BPzV). It's worth IMO to add also Scouts, carried by these vehicles.

405, 406 MT-LB/120 - the Czechoslovak Army didn't use any SP-mortars before PRAM #418.

407 BRM-1 - precisely, BRM-1K. It was a recce vehicle, and carried only 3 crew + 3 (or 2+4). It should have GSR, laser RF and 6-tube SD. According to Russian sources, speed was like normal BMP-1 (65 km/h, now 24) and it carried only 20 rounds of ammunition. Better icon would be BMP-2 due to bigger two-men turret.

410 BTR-40 - I've found no signs suggesting, that BTR-40 served in Czechoslovakia, and it isn't mentioned here http://forum.valka.cz/viewtopic.php/t/36231

411 BRDM-1 - 12.7 mm MG was very rare on BRDM-1 (if used at all) - see comments for unit #51, also for a period of usage.

412 BRDM-2 - there's no evidence of BRDM-2 used in CS, apart from NBC recce variant - see comments for unit #53.

414 IS-IIm1944 - name should be changed just to IS-II or rather IS-2 (see http://forum.valka.cz/viewtopic.php/t/1120 , m1944 is modern designation) - especially, that we have no other IS-2 variants.

416 Praga M53/59 - name could be changed to M53/59 Jesterka (popular name, meaning Lizard) or official PLDvK vz.53/59 (but it doesn't have to be changed).

417 2S4 24cm SPM - name is 2S4 Tulpan. The page http://vojenstvi.cz/vasedotazy_81.htm (no.1202) suggests it was used until 1993 (now it's 91). Used from 1984, but I don't know when exactly (now: 1/85).

419 T-40/75N (PzKfw-IV) - used only from 1948, after repairs (now: 1/46) (http://forum.valka.cz/viewtopic.php/...-cudzich-armad ). Used until 1956, stored until 1959 (other "obsolete tank" class T-40/75N might be created). There's no evidence, that they carried hull side skirts, on photos they are only on turrets.

422 Praga M53/59M - see #416

425 Lisunov 2 - proper name Lisunov Li-2 or just Li-2

430 BTR-40 AOP - as 410. No signs of its usage.

I proposed earlier to create actually used AOP version of OT-65.

433, 434 UAZ-69 Schmel - only 1 was delivered to Czechoslovakia for tests, in 1964 (http://toulky.vojenstvi.cz/foto_index.php?fid=569) or 62/63. To be removed IMO. (formation #82 should be changed according to notes on unit #33).

491 OT-810D - both basic OT-810 and vz.59 gun were introduced only in 1959, so it's earliest possible date (now: 1/54). It also had 7.62mm vz.59 AAMG and ranging MG for a gun. Ammunition for 82mm gun was 30, speed was 20 (60 km/h) (http://forum.valka.cz/viewtopic.php/t/18793 )

541 M77 Dana - Dana has 12.7 DShK AAMG, not NSV. It can carry 60 artillery rounds. According to http://forum.valka.cz/viewtopic.php/t/12305 , first introduced to units in 1980 (now: 1/77)

542 Komsolets - as I've mentioned in other place, it should be changed to some other tractor, for example Ja-12.

Specifications would be similar, speed up to 38 km/h, picture - 29395, some trucklike icon, used until 1954 (http://forum.valka.cz/viewtopic.php/t/17698 ).

In around 1960-75? Czechoslovakia used also Polish D-530 Mazur tractor: http://forum.valka.cz/viewtopic.php/t/19582 . Specifications would be similar, speed up to 53 km/h, picture - 29390, some trucklike icon.

Czechoslovakia used also several types of ex-German SdKfz tractors.


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Michal
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