Jack, I don't know if this thread is the place for it, but I do think your logic there is pretty solid. Fyron and I continued our conversation offline for sometime. He steadfastly refuses to conceed either that there was anything wrong with his initial statement, or that his two statements are in any way contradictory. He did come close to conceeding that for his initial statement to be correct it had to be assumed you were playing a game in which allied victory was an option. It is apparently his conviciotn that either that stipulation should be understood inherantly in the phrase "used correctly", or at least that the phrase "used correctly" is somehow vague enough as to cover any sort of optional game settings or victory conditions and not limited to in game performance as I reasonably took it to mean. Obviously I think that argument is equivalent to a substantial quanity of bat guano, but eh,whadaygonnado?
Geoschmo