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Old January 31st, 2022, 04:03 PM

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Accidentally, I found detailed articles about Czechoslovak RPGs in Polish Army - and there are some inaccuracies, also in their performance:

Czech P-27 RPG was used in Poland from 6/53 until mid-1960s (say, 1963), in 2600 pieces - a forgotten weapon in Poland nevertheless, replaced by Soviet RPG-2. I'm attaching Polish photo.

There is already weapon #27, but its range should be 150 m [now: 2] (according to Polish trials it was "very accurate especially up to 125 m").
On the other hand, penetration (tested) was only 150-170 mm (now 25). It also concerns other users, especially Czechoslovakia (weapon #15 P27 Pancerovka).

Unit 312 Scouts using P-27 should be available from 6/53 at the earliest (now 1/052) - earlier unit 303 needs extending.

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372 RPG-2 Team - used only from late 1957 (say 6/57) [now 6/54] according to article in "Poligon" 6/2013

A couple of other units using RPG-2 needs correcting as well:
291 - Special Forces - Available 06/054 (unit 290 should be extended then)
310 - Rifle Section - Available 01/055 (earlier infantry overlaps this period)
316 - Rifle Section - Available 01/055
317 - Rifle Section - Available 01/055
318 - Scouts - Available 01/055 (unit 312 should be extended then)
386 - Naval Infantry - Available 01/054
451 - Ski Scouts - Available 01/055 (unit 450 should be extended then)
461 - Ski Riflemen - Available 01/055
768 - SMG Section - Available 01/053
782 - Motorcycle Sec - Available 01/052 (unit 781 should be extended then)
783 - Motorcycle Sec - Available 01/055

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Surprisedly, Czech T-21 Tarasnice RCL was also available from 6/55 until early 1960s (say, 1961) - totally unknown weapon in Poland, although quite a number (410) were bought and kept in reserve for tank hunters ("Poligon" 3/2014). The same class I think, but radio must be 3. I'm attaching Polish pictures.

There might be copied Czech unit 366 T-21 Team, but there should be no HE ammo (also for Czechoslovakia)!

Czech weapon #158 82mm Tarasnice has range 6, but its maximum aimed range was in fact 600 m (with dispersion up to 0.8m on this range). It concerns also Egyptian weapon #159.

(Czech unit 375 T21 RCL HE and weapon #157 82mm T21 RCL HE with range 56 raise doubts - despite maximum range of the grenade was 2800 m http://www.csla.cz/zbrane/pancerovky/t21.htm , but I haven't found any info, that it was useful on any range above 600 m. It was direct fire weapon with no sights to shoot in ballistic way (both iron and optical sights were scaled up to 600 m) and used HEAT ammo with only some HE effect. According to "Poligon" article, HE ammunition was envisaged, but there is no info if it ever entered production)


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BTW, pictures for Special Forces are messed - I'm attaching proper propositions:
289,293 Special Forces - picture is AKSU-74, not PM-84 SMG

290 Special Forces - photo is hard to identify, not PPS SMG (and not special forces, judging from field caps)

292 Special Forces - picture is PPSh, not PPS SMG

292 Special Forces - picture is PPSh, not PM-63 SMG

294,297 Special Forces - picture is AKSU-74, not Beryl SMG

I'm also attaching the only good photo of Rosomak M3M that I have found, and photo of unit 129 Yak 9P (also the only good ones)
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File Type: zip Polish pictures.zip (1.54 MB, 54 views)

Last edited by Pibwl; February 1st, 2022 at 11:39 AM..
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