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Old January 19th, 2013, 11:21 AM

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Default Re: Murdering Winter

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Originally Posted by bbz View Post
... or forging unique items.(maybe its possible to order the mage with highest ID and the mage with lowest ID to forge an important unique artifact(I don't think it will be worth it but there might be certain situations) to make sure that someone else doesn't forge it before you do.( not sure if the ID's are shared between all the players)
Yes, you can increase the chances of successfully forging artefacts by double forging them with a low/high ID mage. Of course this doesn't guarantee success unless the two mages are both the highest and lowest ID-ed mages in the game respectively. As if another player forges the same artefact with a lower or higher ID-ed mage than you did (depending on the order the turn resolution was resolved that turn), then they would be the one who forged the artefact successfully.

The same mechanics apply for summoning unique monsters.


RE: Wolven Winter in particular.

One common bit of misinfomation regarding this spell, and in relation to abusing ID orders, is that if you are planning to launch a ritual attack, lets say Cloud Trapezing a thug onto a coldblooded C'tis lizard army. Then you will sometimes see advice that says you should try to have a Wolven Winter caster on either side of the Cloud Trapezing thug. The idea being that this will guarantee that at least one Wolven Winter will be cast before the fight regardless of whether the turn is resolved high-low or low-high. But there are two errors in that analysis :-

1 - All rituals are cast before combat from rituals takes place (apart from remote assassination spells which are resolved instantly)

2 - Wolven Winter is a spell that simulates an in-game event. Therefore while it is cast in the ritual phase, the effects of the spell do not occur until the event phase. Meaning the temperature scales will not have changed when the ritual battle occured. This is one of the most common and false arguments used in discussions relating to coldblooded units. (eg. "coldblooded units are useless as you just have to cast Wolven Winter and drop a SC on them".)
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