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Old April 6th, 2023, 09:55 PM
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Fallout Re: MBT's

Well, your T-80UE1 does exist.

However, they seem to have only made a few of them. Whether or not they had enough for a Brigade "might be" a matter of conjecture.

But I can provide the following.
"Around 60 Russian T-80BV, T-80BVM, T-80UK, T-80UE1 and T-80U Main Battle Tanks (MBTs) have been visually confirmed captured during the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine as of 26 June 2022, with some put to use by the [b]93rd Mechanized Brigade (In March they operated a mix of the T-80BV & T-80BVM. Going into the Fall of 2022 I'm sure I read they went to only the T-80BVM. My understanding is that the T-80BV tanks they had along with other captured ones went to another Brigade."
http://<b>https://www.armyrecognitio..._army.html</b>

"T-80UE1
is an upgraded version of the T-80U, fitted with a Plisa thermal sight and improved fire control system. This version was officially adopted by the Russian Army in 2005. Only a small number of these tanks were built. These tanks were used during 2022 invasion to Ukraine and some of them were lost."
https://www.military-today.com/tanks/t80u.htm
https://mil.in.ua/en/news/the-russia...e-sumy-region/
(Stand-alone ref.)


What say ORNX?
6 Total:
1 DESTROYED FEB 26, 2022 (Here ORNX declared this tank as destroyed. However, my Ref just above (Same picture but a different angle.) described this same tank as damaged. Both ORNX pictures.
https://postimg.cc/TpZb0ptQ

5 Last Captured APR 30, 2022.
https://i.postimg.cc/fb0m5nJQ/4388.jpg

1. From "THIRD" Patch Post #1/Page 1 it did not meet my requirement to Field 2 Platoons plus 1 Reserve or if you from the same "2+1". Ukraine operates with a "Light Platoon" w/4 tanks or "Heavy Platoon" with 6 tanks.

2. There is no upside to enter this tank when we have both the T-80BV and T-80BVM (Which in the submission was improved upon based on "newer" references.) Both these tanks are much better overall.

3. And the Russian OOB is tight though I requested deletion of about 2 T-90A tanks equipped with ARENA APS which that tank never had. We still have a "bit" to go yet. And I'm currently holding some info on that now for possible new equipment.

4. And this might be the most important "observation" of all. The gap between the 4th captured to the last above is about 5-6 weeks.

And if that's not enough look at the gap from last captured to now, that's almost a year for any sighting no matted the "condition".

That logically implies the rest were withdrawn or less likely destroyed.

My first tank posted in this Thread, the BLACK EAGLE if it was in combat the whole world would've heard about it by now. This tank garnered a lot of attention at the time and the speculation by the West if we would have to fight it. Of course, this was followed by the vaunted T-95. Neither of the two saw the light of day.

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