[Gandalf Parker]

I thought I mentioned VGAP4. That might have been another thread.

Ive owned my serial for VGA Planets 4 since 2002. But I dont think I will ever be receiving my disk. Its been in BETA all that time. And at this point, I think it has become a monster which can never be released.

I consider it a wonderful fantastic game to recommend to anyone who feels that they learn and dump their games too quickly. It is deeply complicated. In all that beta time the dedicated "test base" has added more and more features to it. At this point its a game that I consider almost impossible to release. To make an AI, to make a turtorial, to document it even partially, not to mention the learning curve which goes way beyond most games. And without all of the usual learning aids its another game where the recommendation is "just jump into MP to learn it".

But if that sounds fun to you then go for it. Its a free download in beta.

All IMHO of course.